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ANOTHER 200 Scientists Document Global Climate Change - Yo Deniers!

by Seeker4 in

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/07/science/earth/07climate.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin.

another international slate of scientists have released their findings regarding global climate change and human's effect on that (see the above link).. after the last major study released by several hundred scientists a few months ago, it does seem there is a serious concensus here among the leading thinkers and scientists on this issue.

i know i've banged heads with a few who disagree with this, but it does seem as though that handful of folks who disagree with the science are looking more and more like deniers, as in holocaust deniers, moon landing deniers, etc.. in other words, out there on the lunatic fringe.. so, do you folks think it might be time to reconsider?.

uninformed

Does it cause a pause for thought for anyone when you realize that the terminology "GLOBAL WARMING" has generally been replaced with the expression "CLIMATE CHANGE".

That, along with the "CARBON FOOTPRINT" tax computations makes me realize where all of this is most likely coming from and going to.

From here it looks like the UN is trying to figure a way to tax world citizens. Am I being totally stupid or is this seen as a possible motive for them first pushing global warming and then the easier climate change venue?

Brant

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gettin a bike

by IP_SEC in

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im going down to cajun harley today and im not leaving without a bike.. too bad i cant fit 100 lbs of crawfish on it .

uninformed

Harley Davidson Motorcycles, Road King Classic

IPsec--I have one that looks just like this one, except in Chopper Blue. I say go for it. I love mine.

You probably don't remember, but we met last year at Tex's house.

Brant

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VA Tech Incident - Stupid Things People Say

by Seeker4 in

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watching all the pundits on tv after the killings at va tech yesterday, there were a handful of things that kept getting repeated that are just stupid.

usually they also require an impossible level of hindsight (which a good number of the pundits have, it seems).

i've just got to rant about this for a few minutes.

uninformed

Rebel 8-----

If only the shooter had enrolled himself in Bethel instead of college.

Amen to that.

U

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VA Tech Incident - Stupid Things People Say

by Seeker4 in

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watching all the pundits on tv after the killings at va tech yesterday, there were a handful of things that kept getting repeated that are just stupid.

usually they also require an impossible level of hindsight (which a good number of the pundits have, it seems).

i've just got to rant about this for a few minutes.

uninformed

seeker 4,

good post. Most of the people crying for more protection and more laws are pissed off when they have to go to the airport 2 hours early to stand in line while security is checking Grandma Jones and some woman with a 3 month old baby.

There are already too many laws, and there is no way to protect everyone. I say bring back the Colt 45 Peacemaker. (Partially joking- however, if everyone was carrying the guy wouldnh't have killed over 30 people.

Many liberals that want more government control also bitch about the "Homeland Security" laws and complain about losing our freedoms.

Its just a crazy world, and everyone tries to play the blame game or the lets protect everyone all the time.

700,000 people a year die from doctors mistakes.

50,000 a year die from car accidents (including drunk drivers)

How many hundred thousand a year die from smoking?

It just goes on and on.

Thanks for posting this subject.

Your post was pause for thought.

Brant

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Will JWs leave the org because of accelerated doctrine change?

by cultswatter in

looks like the wts is morphing into a totally diferent religion.

they are trying to get new converts any way they can at the same time they are trying to patch previous doctrine in an attempt to give the illusion of true prophecy.. hey wts, no matter what you do it won't work.

the 1914 date is pure fiction, so is 1918/19.

uninformed

I was in 45 years (from 15) to almost 60. My wife all here life, 60 years.

We left because of the NGO hypocrisy. 11 months AFTER we quit going, although we left THEM alone, they came after us and disfellowshipped us.

Never been any happier!

Doctrinally, I had a lot of trouble with their insertion of the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" in every paragraph since 1980. Also had trouble with the lack of a real 1975 apology. Had real trouble with the neutrality change in the 90's as I went to prison for neutrality during the Viet Nam war.

When they disconnected 1914 from the "generation" in 1995 I almost got the courage to quit. In 1997 they made a statement to the effect that even though there was corruption in the organization, Jehovah was not about to reject them. When I read that, I turned to my wife and said. "They are not God's People anymore."

Although I now believe that they never were, the process of leaving the organization took me 25 years. Enough is enough.

Brant

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Before the Elder Arrangement

by bavman in

for you "old timers"...lol!

what was procedure if someone seriously sinned and needed to confess?

also, was there less disfellowshipping going on?

uninformed

Juni

How do I trust an answer from a cat w/sunglasses???? Anyways. Was the Bible Study servant the precursor to the Field Service servant? I came in in 1970.
Juni

Yes, the Bible Study Servant was changed to Field Service Overseer in 1972 when the elder arrangement came.

Before the elder arrangement, all of the "servants" were considered Ministerial Servants. The only Overseer was the Congregation Servant.

cat with glasses--u

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Doctrine flip flops

by reneeisorym in

can you guys give me some examples of some of the flickers of light?

a jw threw the "the light gets brighter" thing at me and i want to ask what it means when they flip flop between yes and no on issues.

uninformed

In the early 70's there was an question from readers (QFR) that made the point that women were NOT scripturally free to divorce their husbands and remarry if he was an active homosexual. (or bestiality)

Several months later there was another QFR that re-defined "Porneia" to include homosexual acts, therefore making it possible for a sister to divorce on those grounds.

Prior to about 1972 JW's could smoke, although it was looked down on, then that was revoked and it was made a disfellowshipping offense.

(in 1969 I had a Congregation Servant (PO) who smoked privately.

U

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beliefs about 1914/1918 prior to current teaching

by dust in

i saw a scan only a few weeks ago, i think it was from the golden age, and it stated something completely different than what is taught now.

but i don't remember where i saw it...

uninformed

Dust:

It was taught that Jesus returned in 1874 and that Armageddon was due in 1914.

Additionally, when that was proved wrong, they taught that Jesus came in 1914 to Heavenly Power. At that time, the GREAT TRIBULATION began and then miraculously in 1918 it was "cut short"(on account of the Holy Ones) or "stopped" temporarily until the Anointed and the Great Crowd were gathered, then it would RESUME and go on into Armageddon.

This belief was taught until 1966 or 1967.

u

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Before the Elder Arrangement

by bavman in

for you "old timers"...lol!

what was procedure if someone seriously sinned and needed to confess?

also, was there less disfellowshipping going on?

uninformed

the three brothers on the comittee were:

Congregation Servant

Assistant Congregation Servant

Bible Study Servant

These three made up the 'congregation committee'. To be on the comittee was a real power deal for young brothers. I was on the "comittee in 1969 when I was just 23 years old. How would you like a 23 year old deciding your everlasting future? Back in those days, disfellowshipping was not viewed as 'discipline', but rather a turning of the person over to Satan for destruction.....HONEST!!!!!!!!!!!!

The congregation servant had a lot more power in those days. The other two did not share his status or equality, therefore his opinion usually was the final opinion.

There were lots of df'ings but less people in the org so less people in trouble.

It wasn't better back then.

Brant

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Don Imus Fired!

by minimus in

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....for saying "nappy headed hos".

he's off tv and radio.

personally, he's never been my favorite but i like him more than the reverend al sharpton!

uninformed

I agree about Sharpton and rappers; BUT it is one thing for a black person to use the n word. Stupid and demeaning, but not a racial slur like this. If they use racial slurs against whites or Jews, they deserve the same treatment as Imus.

Not long ago, Sharpton called NYC "Himey Town".

Double standard.

I always like Imus. He portrayed bitter old grouch and was a 'shock jockey'. His comments were ALWAYS inappropriate. His particular comment about the basketball girls was not funny nor should he have said what he did.

I wish the black community would work on their real problems. Seems like everyone can be rascists but them.

u