Welcome, Megan,
We know KW13 as a really good guy, so any friend of his, etc. Yes, I think we'd all love to get your notes and impressions of the assembly.
hello i am megan tis my first time here (hence the title :) ) so i just thought i would introduce myself.. i've never actually never been actually been a jehovahs witness but i first actually got introduced to it in january when i met the amazing kw13 haha :) since then ive looked at books, articles and had a wonderous time on the friday of the 2006 3 day jw convention .
i'm trying to help karl get his mum out of the witnessing, hopefully we can get through its not gonna be easy but we are optimistic.
its been a real difficult time for me trying to understand the witnessing because it went from 16 years of just knowning them as them people who bother you at your door to getting to know alot more and their "morals".
Welcome, Megan,
We know KW13 as a really good guy, so any friend of his, etc. Yes, I think we'd all love to get your notes and impressions of the assembly.
having been one of jehovah's witnesses for the better part of fourteen years and then having left the organization after having discovered the watchtower society's involve- ment with the united nations has left me second guessing myself.
often times, i ask myself why?-why?
did i not listen to my "gut feelings" when i held certain doubts about the organization?
Welcome, wanderer! A term that you will want to become familiar with is 'cognitive dissonance.'
Here is a brief explanation from wikipedia:
Cognitions which contradict each other are said to be "dissonant," while cognitions which agree with each other are said to be "consonant." Cognitions which neither agree nor disagree with each other are said to be "irrelevant." (Festinger, 1957)The introduction of new cognition that is dissonant with a currently held cognition creates a state of "dissonance," the magnitude of which relates to the relative importance of the involved cognitions. Dissonance can be reduced either by eliminating dissonant cognitions, or by adding new consonant cognitions. The maximum possible dissonance is equal to the resistance to change of the less resistant cognition; therefore, once dissonance reaches a level that overcomes the resistance of one of the cognitions involved, that cognition will be changed or eliminated, and dissonance will be reduced.
This leads some people who feel dissonance to seek information that will reduce dissonance and avoid information that will increase dissonance. People who are involuntarily exposed to information that increases dissonance are likely to discount that information, either by ignoring it, misinterpreting it, or denying it.
ever since we moved into this place almost eight years ago, there have been demons in my basement.
no, not those kinds of demons.
not the smurf-controlling, videogame-inhabiting and musically-backmasked, legendarily-jw-feared sort of demons.
Eagerly awaitng the next installment.........................
so at work i am a pretty chicken kind of person as far as the rules.
i usually walk the line and follow all of the code of business conduct things put upon me.
well last month the declared a surplus at my job.
Yup, definitely. You are chasing yourself right up your own behind. The only solution I know is to get some perspective by getting out of yourself - focus on your kids, or whatever. Anti-depressant drugs do not attack the real issue - they cover it over with a warm, fuzzy blanket. Your only alternative is behavioral modification, wherein you figure out your own neuroses with or without the help of a pro. And begin working with what you find out. You thought there was going to be a short cut? An easy out? No way, babe! YOU GOT TO DO THE WORK.......................................................................... yayesssss........
i think it's all about fear.
they are always afraid of displeasing jehovah god, the elders, the circuit overseer.
witnesses are always walking on eggshells, hoping that they'll be good enough to make it thru the great tribulation.
I once asked a "sister" if she would continue to do the things that Jehovah demanded of her if she would absolutely NOT be given everlasting life. She thought about it for a few minutes, then said......no.Religion is a web spun by the spider. Many people will agree that they are caught in the web. They avert their eyes when the spider eats its prey.
Bronze: When you get right down to the nubbins.......where you live...............................Yes........
so at work i am a pretty chicken kind of person as far as the rules.
i usually walk the line and follow all of the code of business conduct things put upon me.
well last month the declared a surplus at my job.
**yawn** Try not to take yourself so seriously.....................amazing what can happen.........................
well, just go back from my little trip up to austin and had a really great time.
hung out with wifey, visited the state capital, did some site seeing, and conquered the muddy buddy race!
after 3 days away from home, we're now back in houston and i was eager to get back on the board and do some reading.
I tried staying quiet for a week but couldn't do it.
Happens around here all the time.
Kind of a Hotel California thing ............."you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave............."
i think it's all about fear.
they are always afraid of displeasing jehovah god, the elders, the circuit overseer.
witnesses are always walking on eggshells, hoping that they'll be good enough to make it thru the great tribulation.
Quite frankly, being a JW is not like a buffet. You cannot come in and take plate and take a little salad, a few meatballs, a roll and some tapioca and pay your $5.95 and leave.
The WTS is not interested in your $5.95 any more than they are interested in people just coming to a 'public talk,' or just taking a magazine.
D'you know the saying "Once you've got them by the ballz, their minds and hearts will follow?" Should be the banner headline on all WT lit.
The indoctrination is designed with strategically built-in hooks along the way to insure that staying is easier than leaving. Your family, friends, work, free time, job, nearly all life choices are intertwined with being a JW, like the tentacles of an octopus and each year you get more firmly entrenched. As long a you relax in the warm water, all is comfortable. But any movement toward escape, and the tentacles instinctively tighten and strangle you.
get a free haircut?
pay no rent?
travel for free?
Let me get my head wrapped around this WAC:
You're saying that the WTS hierarchy would dispense untruths, decieve, manipulate and demand unwavering worship from the flock in order to protect and perpetuate their own easy, high-living, power structure lifestyle at the expense of their constituency's individual freedom of choice in the domains of education, employment, marriage, recreation, health care, dress, and sex?
Is that what you're saying?
just saying hi, and i am soooooo glad to find this site.
i have been out of the org.
for about 7 years now, and am just now feeling fully free.
Maybe with the help and information here I can get some good ammo!!
This is pretty much guaranteed! Welcome, payinu!