Posts by KW13

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Noah 'warning the people'

by KW13 in

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am i imagining this?at the kingdom hall we were told many times that noah warned the others about the coming flood and was ridiculed but actually there is no evidence of this in the bible!there is however evidence to the contrary.

matthew 24:37-39.

37 as it was in the days of noah, so it will be at the coming of the son of man.

KW13

Am i imagining this?

At the Kingdom Hall we were told many times that Noah warned the others about the coming flood and was ridiculed but actually there is no evidence of this in the bible!

There is however evidence to the contrary.

Matthew 24:37-39

37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

Hebrews 11:7 seems to confirm this

7 By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith.

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Apostasy Movie (For those who have forgotten)

by KW13 in

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this movie is out there now in the us and im guessing other territories and due to be released tomorrow in the uk in cinema and for streaming.

https://www.curzonartificialeye.com/apostasy/.

i didnt realise until recently the man behind it all shares a mutual friend with myself so im hoping to get to meet him because this film looks like it will do more for ex witnesses who need justification for moving on and for those who don't understand the religion, i think it teaches more than any documentary?.

KW13

This movie is out there now in the US and im guessing other territories and due to be released tomorrow in the UK in cinema and for streaming.

https://www.curzonartificialeye.com/apostasy/

i didnt realise until recently the man behind it all shares a mutual friend with myself so im hoping to get to meet him because this film looks like it will do more for ex witnesses who need justification for moving on and for those who don't understand the religion, i think it teaches more than any documentary?

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There is No Way Out For Me

by Addison0998 in

i have come to the conclusion that there is no way for me to ever leave.

although i have some friends at work, my whole social structure are witnesses.

even if i move congregations, my parents have contacts everywhere who will tell them if i’m not active.

KW13

Having a life outside of that religion is difficult yes but totally possible. Go get a life with real people to share special moments with from work or elsewhere. Bite the bullet!

I know the risks and have felt depressed and anxious as i adjusted to life looking toward the future instead of just waiting for armageddon to happen and ive lost friendships but gained better ones. The witnesses arent giving you what you need to thrive, theyre holding you back from finding it!

First post in ages by the way you earned it buddy :P

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Northenden Assembley Hall Of JWs (Manchester, UK) - A Little History

by pale.emperor in

this is the circuit assembly hall i attended since childhood.

if you're a jw and you grew up in liverpool, lancashire or manchester then this is the hall you attended.

when i was little i remember the decor inside being red and cream coloured.

KW13

i went there too as i was in a congregation in/near manchester

The ornate, decorative features are original. Around the platform you can see the decoration that once went around the screen from it's time as a cinema!

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Apathy and of course Scandals!

by KW13 in

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i remember as a young dub, being told by others and particularly from the platform that apathy was the number one enemy and in many ways i think that's true today.

people are seeing a change from the 70's - 80's (the last time the end 'felt' close to many) and now the witnesses are in a rut.

the society seem to have backed off from making bold claims and instead seem to be trying their best to retain the members they have as opposed to trying to gain attention of others as they did in the formative years of the religion when they wore sandwich boards - throw in the growing spotlight on child abuse issues and you've got yourself a religion that's trapped in a purgatory of sorts - the majority of long time members will stay in the religion and die in the religion but as time goes on i think are clearly losing interest and the 'fiery passion' that used to be so obvious before and outsiders just arent interested as there are better, more interesting things to do.

KW13

I'm not sure how the society share media but congregation only releases could well be tracked using username and ip addresses, making it hard to leak or share videos without revealing it's source..

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Apathy and of course Scandals!

by KW13 in

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i remember as a young dub, being told by others and particularly from the platform that apathy was the number one enemy and in many ways i think that's true today.

people are seeing a change from the 70's - 80's (the last time the end 'felt' close to many) and now the witnesses are in a rut.

the society seem to have backed off from making bold claims and instead seem to be trying their best to retain the members they have as opposed to trying to gain attention of others as they did in the formative years of the religion when they wore sandwich boards - throw in the growing spotlight on child abuse issues and you've got yourself a religion that's trapped in a purgatory of sorts - the majority of long time members will stay in the religion and die in the religion but as time goes on i think are clearly losing interest and the 'fiery passion' that used to be so obvious before and outsiders just arent interested as there are better, more interesting things to do.

KW13

yeah, its unlikely to leak i guess?

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Apathy and of course Scandals!

by KW13 in

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friends

i remember as a young dub, being told by others and particularly from the platform that apathy was the number one enemy and in many ways i think that's true today.

people are seeing a change from the 70's - 80's (the last time the end 'felt' close to many) and now the witnesses are in a rut.

the society seem to have backed off from making bold claims and instead seem to be trying their best to retain the members they have as opposed to trying to gain attention of others as they did in the formative years of the religion when they wore sandwich boards - throw in the growing spotlight on child abuse issues and you've got yourself a religion that's trapped in a purgatory of sorts - the majority of long time members will stay in the religion and die in the religion but as time goes on i think are clearly losing interest and the 'fiery passion' that used to be so obvious before and outsiders just arent interested as there are better, more interesting things to do.

KW13

On the related topic of Chelmsford, there was a video update played at the meeting two weeks ago. Has this been discussed on the forum? I have been looking out and not seen any discussion.

I didnt see that. have you got a link?

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Apathy and of course Scandals!

by KW13 in

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friends

i remember as a young dub, being told by others and particularly from the platform that apathy was the number one enemy and in many ways i think that's true today.

people are seeing a change from the 70's - 80's (the last time the end 'felt' close to many) and now the witnesses are in a rut.

the society seem to have backed off from making bold claims and instead seem to be trying their best to retain the members they have as opposed to trying to gain attention of others as they did in the formative years of the religion when they wore sandwich boards - throw in the growing spotlight on child abuse issues and you've got yourself a religion that's trapped in a purgatory of sorts - the majority of long time members will stay in the religion and die in the religion but as time goes on i think are clearly losing interest and the 'fiery passion' that used to be so obvious before and outsiders just arent interested as there are better, more interesting things to do.

KW13

Hey freddo, im a uk dweller myself near manchester so i have no idea how the usa is doing :P

that said, you make some great points and i do genuinely think your observations regarding the bethel futures are spot on - shrinking numbers, less income = downsizing!

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Apathy and of course Scandals!

by KW13 in

jw
friends

i remember as a young dub, being told by others and particularly from the platform that apathy was the number one enemy and in many ways i think that's true today.

people are seeing a change from the 70's - 80's (the last time the end 'felt' close to many) and now the witnesses are in a rut.

the society seem to have backed off from making bold claims and instead seem to be trying their best to retain the members they have as opposed to trying to gain attention of others as they did in the formative years of the religion when they wore sandwich boards - throw in the growing spotlight on child abuse issues and you've got yourself a religion that's trapped in a purgatory of sorts - the majority of long time members will stay in the religion and die in the religion but as time goes on i think are clearly losing interest and the 'fiery passion' that used to be so obvious before and outsiders just arent interested as there are better, more interesting things to do.

KW13

I remember as a young dub, being told by others and particularly from the platform that Apathy was the number one enemy and in many ways i think that's true today. People are seeing a change from the 70's - 80's (the last time the end 'felt' close to many) and now the witnesses are in a rut. The society seem to have backed off from making bold claims and instead seem to be trying their best to retain the members they have as opposed to trying to gain attention of others as they did in the formative years of the religion when they wore sandwich boards - throw in the growing spotlight on child abuse issues and you've got yourself a religion that's trapped in a purgatory of sorts - the majority of long time members will stay in the religion and die in the religion but as time goes on i think are clearly losing interest and the 'fiery passion' that used to be so obvious before and outsiders just arent interested as there are better, more interesting things to do.

This religion won't die in a huge fiery blaze of glory, but i'm almost 100% certain that it will fade out into nothingness other the next 100 years (30 years?) as it becomes less profitable and loses it's members to old age and lack of interest

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Apostacy - The Movie Review

by pale.emperor in

cannot wait to see this.

is it going to be in regular cinemas?

i love the fact that the guardian newspaper, the same paper that exposed their un involvement, are the ones reviewing this.. p.s.

KW13

Long time no post for me!

Im from very near to oldham (10 minutes away) so be interesting to see if witnesses here mention it in passing!