Posts by freemindfade

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Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

by freemindfade in

while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

freemindfade

flipper

I feel like if my family members speak to me again I am going to ask them, what do you think about putting someone on the rack in order to cause physical torment to get them "accept christ"?

I am sure most modern religious people (outside of ISIS) would consider this practice to be pointless and barbaric. If they agree it makes no sense, I would then like to ask them what is the difference in psychologically tormenting a loved one in order to make them "accept christ" or "accept the GB".

What is the difference? One is physical, one is psychological and emotional, but the mechanism and practice is just the same.

I'm sorry man, I know your pain in my own way with my current struggle. The only good thing that has come of mine is the wife sees from an all new perspective how barbaric this is.

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shunning is so unloveing so unmerciful that it if practiced bible says you deserve death romans 1;;32 and entire chap

by poopie in

jw
friends

2 the judgment is there stop shunning and jehovahs burning anger will turn back continue and you will fall into the judgment of romans chap 2 .

freemindfade

Yea I didn't see anything specific to shunning... although I did read this which I took at supporting my pagan luciferian ideals

14 For when people of the nations, who do not have law,+ do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. 15 They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by* their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused. 16 This will take place in the day when God through Christ Jesus judges the secret things of mankind,+ according to the good news I declare.

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Whose God are you worshipping??

by Crazyguy in

in the early writings of the bible its mentioned that the israelites worshiped false gods, gods of the stars and other celestial bodies.

ezekiel even bloviates against this in his writings and king josiah is said to have abolish these practices.

jeremiah mentions that god would even destroy the city were sun worship was being practiced a place called bethshemesh in egypt.

freemindfade

Excellent thoughts, I too often feel the jw.cult idea of (2+2=5) god is not true to the bible. They present him as consistent throughout, however this is not true in many ways. In the pagan world there is repetition and duplication of gods and ideas, but jwdom states that this is satan trying to confuse the matter and god has always been consistent. simpletons! history and archeology show otherwise. And if satan was trying to confuse the matter, in my book, god would have let him do waaayyyyy to good of a job

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Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

by freemindfade in

while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

freemindfade

Dubstepped. I feel you. I don't fell I was ever cruel to my df'd brothers. But also they weren't df'd for "apostasy". People that just want to f--k or do drugs and then get booted and feel guilty areally not like us. They are still just as indoctrinated ot more. They claw and crawl their way back (I am sure not all but a lot). When like us you've decided it's not "the truth", it's not the same. So when I shunned them they expected it and embraced the punishment. We do not because we see the folly. Middle finger to this cult.

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New Mascot - Translator Robot

by Slave4_38y in

this is the latest offering from the caleb/sophia duo - lesson 16, preach in a foreign language.

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freemindfade

As to where they are from, maybe Mypos? or maybe where Fez from that 70's show was from....

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Feeling indifferent

by campaign of hate in

jw
friends

right now, at this point in my life, i feel like i should be angry, sad, upset, annoyed, whatever emotion that most of you guys here feel or have felt.. but the overwhelming feeling i get, and i have got since waking up, is indifference.. i think that this might be my subconscious coping mechanism.

when i go to the meetings or take part in any other wt related activity, i don't care.

i just really couldn't care less.. i mean, i do care, but i think it's more a fascination now about the whole thing.

freemindfade

It is, I think it is healthy to explore ideas that open your mind to possibilities without having to tie it down to "what you believe". This is something I am finally getting through to my wife. this "what do you believe" thing witnesses can't think past.

This is at the core of my current philosophy.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

Aristotle

Best of luck to you COH.

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Feeling indifferent

by campaign of hate in

jw
friends

right now, at this point in my life, i feel like i should be angry, sad, upset, annoyed, whatever emotion that most of you guys here feel or have felt.. but the overwhelming feeling i get, and i have got since waking up, is indifference.. i think that this might be my subconscious coping mechanism.

when i go to the meetings or take part in any other wt related activity, i don't care.

i just really couldn't care less.. i mean, i do care, but i think it's more a fascination now about the whole thing.

freemindfade

i think it's more a fascination now about the whole thing. It actually does interest me, the ins and outs of the Cult.

I totally agree with this, any interest I have left is just understanding for my own sanity.

Especially when I go to the meeting (only to be nice to my wife). Now I see it all for what it is, it actually makes me more anti-theist, atheist and anti jw.cult.

I do feel going is a waste of my time and life, but I am stuck doing it at the moment to be nice.

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Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

by freemindfade in

while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

freemindfade

Caedes

lol or you could say my religion says I can't talk to apostates...

Kind of like putting them in a round room and telling them to pee in the corner

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Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

by freemindfade in

while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

freemindfade

cappytan, she is like a different person, she feels my family has totally stepped out of line and doesn't agree with them at all. She is way less "culty" if that is a word. She says I have taught her a lot about not being judgmental and other typical negative JW behavior. Family things has gone down hill.

You know about 2 years ago i guess she was freaking out about my view of the bible as not true, so she ratted me out to the CO and an elder friend, so they came and talked with me, I told them all these things about how I can't settle out bible stories with science, history and archeology. They were both actually super cool, I thought I was gonna get DF'd. They just said they thought I was intelligent, and they loved me, and to just not completely give up. And that was that. Fast forward two years, I come out with this to some family members and they take it upon themselves to completely disassociate me.

Like literally no one will speak to me, all my family on IG disappeared. It's so disappointing. But the wife will listen now, our debates don't turn into WW3 and she is very sympathetic. I think since she has had to deal with it for the last few years, and she sees I am still really the same person that she loves, it's a shock to her system to see them all act so... hypocritical. Especially since many of them have been involved in some pretty scandalous things and disfellowshipping everything you can imagine, they are not living the standard JW model, they miss most meetings and don't go out regular, and they are taking the lead in trashing me. She is not dumb, she sees how f---ed up that is. Especially since I have been so kind and generous to all of them and never spoken a harsh word, even when I was on top of my JW game and they were floundering

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Jehovahs Witness Shunning & the Crusades

by freemindfade in

while discussing being mistreated by my own jw family last night with my wife, i wanted to try to make her think critically about what shunning really is, and at its root what how beneficial it is.

earlier in the day i sent her non-apostate scholarly article on religious shunning being tantamount to psychological torture.

and most witnesses don't think into much about why they do things, its more of a "this is the way we do it, don't over think it" process.

freemindfade

Laika

Yes thank you, inquisition, too early to start typing these things lol.

It has become so ingrained in the JWdom, like 1914, that no matter how gravely wrong, it seems they can't change it now, to quote the movie 'Focus' die with the lie....