Nark, I was speaking about different conditions BEFORE Flood. And why it is so hard to believe, that conditions was such as rainbow was not able to form. Or if it could, then it never was connected to some promise from God! And who sayed that parameters of the world can't be changed by it's creator?
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Does the Rainbow Covenant Disprove the Flood?
by Severus inthe story goes that god provided the rainbow as a symbol of his promise to never again destroy the world by flood.. noah and his family saw the rainbow after they left the ark.
after the waters had receeded.
after it had stopped raining for months.... yet a rainbow is simply sunlight spread out into its spectrum of colors and diverted to the eye of the observer by water droplets.
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Does the Rainbow Covenant Disprove the Flood?
by Severus inthe story goes that god provided the rainbow as a symbol of his promise to never again destroy the world by flood.. noah and his family saw the rainbow after they left the ark.
after the waters had receeded.
after it had stopped raining for months.... yet a rainbow is simply sunlight spread out into its spectrum of colors and diverted to the eye of the observer by water droplets.
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Shazard
Well condition before flood definetly was different. When ppl could live meny hundred years. Who knows how long could lizards live. Nobody actyally does not know limit of size of lizard if it could frow for very long period. Seems like lizard size is proportional to it's age. So... yes, actually conditions befor flood was very good for growth and reproduction for both - fauna, flora, humans.
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No Absolute Truth
by Shining One inthis one is for the politically correct crowd: .
is there no 'absolute truth'?
do you want to live that one out?
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JWfact. I believe that there IS absolute truth. And I belive that humans can know truth. I doubt that humans are able to know ALL the truth. For example I believe that this table has 4 legs is absolute truth. Truth is reflection of reality. So as we are part of reality ourselves then it is very logical, that we can know something about absolut truth. Our mind is part of the reality, and mind is only known perception orghan which can grasp the truth.
And here comes one truth about reality. If you ignore illusion there will no be bad consequences, but if you ignore truth, you can end very badly. Only exception to the first part of this rule is that only humans are able to create consequences for illusions, thus creating illusion of reality. This is how JW middleage Chatolics and all other ideologies act. They create consequences for illusions. For truth there allways will be consequences if you ignore it in long term. So this is may way how to distinguish truth from illusion. Try to model it's ignorance and see how consequences comes. It is interesting experimentation with reality. People speak about realtive truth, but they allways looks left and right when cross the street, coz they know that reality does not care about your truth, you should care about realitie's truth. And I believe that beyond phisical world there is spriritual world and as gravity is very real in phisical world I believe moral laws are very real in spiritual world. Ignoring gravity leads to disaster, ignoring moral does the same. And airplanes are not ignorance of gravity, they just rely on other laws which can keep from falling even if you are heavy (sinner). So the same with spiritual world... there are means of saving you from falling even if you are not able to keep all the moral laws. The best test for reality and truth is - to ignore it, only bad thing is that at some cases you will not be able to tell about the truth to others as you will be dead :) -
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No Absolute Truth
by Shining One inthis one is for the politically correct crowd: .
is there no 'absolute truth'?
do you want to live that one out?
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Shazard
JWFacts:
"The reality is that there is no provable absolute truth."
Is this claim absolute truth or relative truth?
And how do you know that Hitler and Chatolics were wrong... or you just judge them by your own relative truth which is why better then theirs? So common - is ther truth or there is no truth, in second case term "truth" actually is absurd and is not possible per se. -
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High Control? Cult?
by JoeSinclair inhi guys,.
i have posted earlier today about the witness translation of the bible.
i am trying to learn about the jw way of life from the perspective of an interested outsider.
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The Bible
by sinis inwell it seems the rabbit hole keeps getting deeper for me.
been doing a lot of reading on gnostic and other books that did not make it into the bible.
read up on anathasius of alexandria and found out how the bible was compiled.
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Shazard
If you want to prove that Paul changed everything you will do. If you want to prove that Jesus and his disciples was gay, you will succeed, if you want to prove that Jesus Christ is Elvis Presly you will succeed.
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No Absolute Truth
by Shining One inthis one is for the politically correct crowd: .
is there no 'absolute truth'?
do you want to live that one out?
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Shazard
Thank God, most of these postmodernists actually only TALK about "there is no truth". In reality those who dare to go to the final conclusion of this "truth" ends with their brains smashed on wall by themselves, so they do favor to human genome.
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Mesopotamia, the tower of Babel, fact or fiction?
by wanderlustguy inof course the area known as mesopotamia was real, and it looks like there is evidence of a "tower of babel".
but as for the story of all languages, etc is it where everyone came from?.
when we look at society today, as cultures and people of different races merge together, we see people becoming more like each other, not more distinct.
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Shazard
Leo, theory about small breeding group is right in case if the rules apply to them! But you can't say that their gene pool was so much damaged that they could not create children without problems. And you can see evidence - lifetime of Noa and his sons is very long - that means their health and phisical parameters were pretty damn good for breeding. And if you add God's own interests in the breeding...
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Was Eve Perfect?
by Sunnygal41 inhello, need some thoughts on this one............this question was presented to me last night and i told the person i'd bring it to the forum and get some of our resident scholars to opine on it.
the reasoning goes that eve did not have full knowledge like adam did, so when she took the fruit, she did so in that context and so, was not perfect, as adam was.
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What is "perfect" in this context? Like God, like Angels... No!
Like human? Yes! Has she relationship with God - yes. Was she omnipotent, omniscent - no! -
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How and IF WT reacts on Quake in Indonesia?
by Shazard inchristian groups are "launched" into indonesia to help.
all christian world helps as it can - someone more, someone less, but christians don't stand in silent.
what wt do?
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Yea right... big deal to love ones who loves you and to help ones who feed you :) Tipical WT politics!