Posts by riverofdeceit

so, i asked that old lady, "do you still see that jw couple once in a while", hoping for some kind of juicy news..... so, my question is, "how can a person love to be a jw" when so many others just "hate" being in that religion?.

riverofdeceit

If they don't feel or know that they have been wronged (or robbed), then why not? Some people love their bible god. I don't understand it. So they (the society) use more severe tactics than many other religions. If the individual does not yet feel wronged by the JWs, if they for some reason enjoy banging on doors because they think it is what God wants, who am I to try and point out that it is not "love" for Jehovah, which to them is the equivalent of being a Jehovah's Witness. I'm rambling, but I say sure. You would have to define "love". Love means different things to different people.

I don't like running (you know, for like, exercise). Some people love it. It makes them feel wonderful, or something.

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ahem

by SixofNine in

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riverofdeceit

I am an atheist, but I'm not foolish enough to believe that religion is the reason for all of the wars, bloodshed, etc. It is just a very useful tool. Greed and power are the main reasons, religion is just one way to motivate the quest for control. Nationalism is a religion of sorts (in this context). Want power? Create a group(base it on religion/race/nationality/class, become a leader, gain power, make it "us against them".

It is a lot easier for individuals to get along than for groups. As long as people continue to band together and form these groups, divisions amongst the groups will continue to grow. If it isn't based on religion it will just be based on something else. Wow, that is kinda negative sounding isn't it? Well, those are just my morning thoughts.

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How can one poison a goldfish?

by slimboyfat in

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...with inconspicuous amounts of a household substance?

riverofdeceit

Actually, I have had to ask a somewhat similar question before. It is a morbid question and while I don't know your reason for asking I will give a decent reason for the question (barring limiting myself to household chemicals). We had a goldfish at work that was developed some sort of tumor or something. It was swimming upside down and bleeding. I would have simply flushed it but it was HUGE so that wasn't an option. I at least wanted to euthanize it. I was not allowed to just run it over with the car. A bit violent for my tastes and I was working with females. I was told to put it outside (it was below freezing), it would get hypothermia, supposedly, though I suspected that it would just suffocate before that happened, and die painlessly (aside from the pain it was already in I guess).

I had a cat that became emaciated because of a tumor. I brought it to the vet to be put to sleep. (at first we just thought she was pregnant until you pet her and could just feel bones) They refused and instead said they would have to do exploratory surgery to rule out the possibility of saving it(no guarantee, just ruling out the possibility), which would have been extremely expensive (especially for a farm cat). Two days later (on the weekend) it was unable to even lift up its head (let alone walk). It spent an hour on my bed having seizures. I don't own a gun and didn't think it would be right to do the tailpipe thing. I strangled it to death. It took about twenty to thirty seconds, and it is the most horrible thing that I have ever done in my life. I almost feel like crying right now. If there would have been a better way (I didn't want to be seen outside gassing her with carbon monoxide from the tailpipe of my car) I would have done it.

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If Someone Hurts You Or Pisses You Off, How Do You Usually Deal With It?

by minimus in

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just curious.

riverofdeceit

If it is a stranger, I curse under my breath hoping they hear me (barring of course some sort of sincere"oh, sorry bout that, buddy, my bad" frome their end)unless it is clear that there actions were deliberate and reckless, in which case I will speak up and make known my anger and be willing to back my words up if things get hairy.

If it is someone that I am close to then it usually goes something like:

hope they notice on there own and apologize profusely, if not-
silent treatment...still nothing?
try hard to let it go , which rarely if ever works for me.
subtle hints, snide remarks...
let it simmer deep down while other (usually minor and otherwise tedious) infractions pile up, until I finally lay it all out for them(remember all of the things that I said I was going to be the better person about and let slide?) in rather harsh terms (if necessary). This can be rather time consuming and is not a recommended way of dealing with issues. It can go on for months too, unless it is my wife in which case all of those things still take place(the order can be changed a little) but are expedited because neither one of us should ever have to feel like we should be sleeping on the couch.

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Question: Demons

by ladybug25 in

growing up, i remember hearing stories from my own parents and others in the congregation about experiences with demons.

sister x wore a t-shirt that she purchased at a second hand store and the demons attached themselves to the shirt and gave her problems.

certain movies and/or cds would give a family problems.

riverofdeceit

The thing about demons is that they only attack religious people, which in turn makes them more fervent in their belief. Are the demons not picking up on this? I thought they were cunning.

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Yes, What You Really Wear Does Matter !

by The wanderer in

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yes, your clothing really does matterbeing one of jehovah's witnesses always made.

the individual conscious of the clothes you were .

the men had to wear suits and the women.

riverofdeceit

Never got counseled for my clothes, but I got a warning for the sideburns I used to rock.

I got counselled for shaving mine up too high.

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ahem

by SixofNine in

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riverofdeceit

We probably could if it weren't for all of those religions.

I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself.

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Yes, What You Really Wear Does Matter !

by The wanderer in

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yes, your clothing really does matterbeing one of jehovah's witnesses always made.

the individual conscious of the clothes you were .

the men had to wear suits and the women.

riverofdeceit

I know of several congs. and a certain CO that have a fit if sisters don't wear pantyhose!

Sounds like he has a fetish. I was many times counselled on the way I dressed. I didn't give a crap (well, I cared about getting counselled but I just didn't "heed" it). I had some elder doogooder give me some handmedown suits. Never wore them. They went to the thrift shop. I wasn't much of the conformer JW kid. Some would incorrectly call it rebellion when it was actually just not conforming. I don't work that way, I guess. If it was hot out, I wouldn't wear a jacket. One time a dude said something about it when we were out "in service" and I told him that it was either preaching without the thing or going home. Which would Jehovah prefer? A sweaty person knocking at your door on a Saturday morning to sell religion doesn't seem like a good sales pitch (yeah, it is selling, and the price is far too high). It freaks me out that a lot of you signed up voluntarily, but then again a lot (I don't know if it is the majority but it is still too many) of kids stay in. The conformity they expect, so as not to "cause a stumbling block", actually works against them. At least, it sure as there is no hell did in my case.