because every thing made by jehovahs witnesses is so shoddily made its bound to collapse.
our kingdom hall was falling apart all the time.
thats what happens when you use the untrained witness slaves to build everything in order to save money.they build a pile of crap.edited by - sleepy on 16 june 2002 7:7:51.
i disagree with you, no way tess.
the watchtower relies on the door to door ministry to bring in members......... without new ones comming in, the amount of those "going out" will have a big effect on the organization over a period of time........... the internet, and media, with time, is going to educate and scare of new members........ their structure is way to opressive to even keep their own children in the cult......
hello all my new friends here,.
when i disassociated myself back in 1981, there were only just a couple instances afterwards, where the jdubs came to my door in the service of their ministry.
during those times, i would never ever answer the door.
hi sentinel,
what if it would have been a nice haughty elder, and his minesterial servant buddy?..... and they gave you their 'look down their nose' presentation?........ how would you have handled that?
hi jw lawyers!...........
hey!.........
would you like to discuss the 2 witness issue?..............
gov body,......
i also wanted to ask you about the welfare of young molested girls and boys.........
now,...... when they ~"tell on"~ their 'molester',... to the "elders",.........they are held liable for "slander", right??????????????????.............because they can't produce ***2 witnesses***,,,, right?
and the +penalty+ for that "slander" is "disfellowshipping" right?........... so they comply,.... and stop talking about it, right.......
Edited by - crawdad2 on 16 June 2002 16:10:2
hi jw lawyers!...........
hey!.........
would you like to discuss the 2 witness issue?..............
hi jw lawyers!........... hey!......... would you like to discuss the 2 witness issue?.............. do you really think the supreme court will let your organization continue to molest young children?........because it's your biblical right?..((to demand 2 witnesses))
here's how they do it.......... they get a victim who committed a small sin,,,,,,, kissing .....or bigger,... actually touching.......,,,,,, then they milk them for all the juicy details........every bit of it.......all of it.......then they inform them that,,, "if they disfellowship them" ..... they will "die" if armageddon comes '"before" they get re-instated'....then the victims beg for their life....... yes,... they beg for their life.........
here's how they do it.......... they get a victim who committed a small sin,,,,,,, kissing .....or bigger,... actually touching.......,,,,,, then they milk them for all the juicy details........every bit of it.......all of it.......then they inform them that,,, "if they disfellowship them" ..... they will "die" if armageddon comes '"before" they get re-instated'....then the victims beg for their life....... yes,... they beg for their life.........
last saturday, a former ministerial servant and pioneer committed suicide in the woodinville washington kingdom hall parking lot.
he was disfellowshipped several years ago, and according to the old sister that related the story to me today, he was depressed because no one would talk to him.
i don't know how i kept calm when she explained to me that "we couldn't talk to him...he was disfellowshipped.".
hi sabine.......... @#$#@>>>>>>>>>>>&*&^%.....!!!,,,.................. i mean, ,,,,,,,//////////.......
sabine,......... he murdered your daughter, and he got away with it so far...,,,,,,i'll bet she begged him not to disfellowship her............ i'll bet she was crying so loud,,,,/,,,,,,,, meanwhile he was telling her she was going to die, if he disfellowshipped her........cause if armageddon comes while you are disfellowshipped........you die.....
Edited by - crawdad2 on 15 June 2002 23:31:6
hey kim norris,it would appear i owe you an appology.when i first saw your post i figured it was one of our board pranksters up to no good.now facts would bear out,your for real.i`am happy for that,this board can use more people who are concerned for abused children.you are a very welcome poster here.i appologize to you,for not checking you out before i made my post.i do hope you will stay...outlaw edited by - outlaw on 13 june 2002 23:13:35.
hi kimberly, did you find a client already?....... i'll bet you did!!!!.....just a guess!
in a discussion of allowing godly principles rather than laws rule your life, para.
15 states, "following bible principles, we will avoid trying to live (or demand others to live) by an extensive and rigid set of do's and don'ts that go beyond the teachings of the bible.".
i've read on this site many times that jw's are ruled by man-made rules and regulations relating to all sorts of stupid topics.
hi little old,
i agree,........ their articles are very cleverly worded...... they know exactly what they are doing....
Edited by - crawdad2 on 15 June 2002 20:17:39
been reading some of john boswell's - "the kindness of strangers" , in which he re-constructs the laws and social attitudes, to "getting rid" of unwanted (live) children from roman times to medieval times... .
just wanted to share this story... "the story of the nun of watton".
maybe some of us will relate to the girl in the story..... a 4 y.o.
just my opinion, ...... but those same type of men are in charge of various religions today, including kingdom halls.... the only difference is..... they are forced to go by secular laws now......... what do you think the gov body and their elders would be like, if they didn't have to obey any governmental laws?........ my guess is that they would be torturing members, and stoning them to death......
last saturday, a former ministerial servant and pioneer committed suicide in the woodinville washington kingdom hall parking lot.
he was disfellowshipped several years ago, and according to the old sister that related the story to me today, he was depressed because no one would talk to him.
i don't know how i kept calm when she explained to me that "we couldn't talk to him...he was disfellowshipped.".
hey "you know"................. are you a member of the gov body?.....you sound like it!!!
i love your excuse!!!!!!!........"that's what we would expect "apostates" to do"!!!!!!?????...... in other words, anyone who is concerned about the problems in your organization must be an "apostate" ?.......hey, i'll bet they disfellowship a few more in that cong.......till they get everyone silenced!!!!!!..........you gotta keep those damn apostates who actually "care", silenced, right?????
thank you for confirming what we predicted the attitude of the organization would be......once again, thank you!
ps.... i just knew you would bring "judas" into it.....hahahahaha!!!
Edited by - crawdad2 on 15 June 2002 17:47:25
