Posts by jambon

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More hypocrisy??

by jambon in

something that always bothered me when i was in the org, did anyone else feel the same?.

right, they say its bad for jw`s to go to uni/college?

(i know they changed the tack for a while, but thats essentialy the `law` now).

jambon

Something that always bothered me when I was in the org, did anyone else feel the same?

Right, they say its bad for jw`s to go to uni/college? (i know they changed the tack for a while, but thats essentialy the `law` now)

What always struck me was that whenever a JW becomes ill, needs a lawyer etc, he will want the services of a doctor/nurse or lawyer. So if these professional people, who will save our life with outstanding medical attention etc did`nt go to uni/college, how would anyone be available to give them required attention??

It always struck me as hypocrisy.

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Did you drink to get over being a Witness?

by free2beme in

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when i first left the witnesses, i had some times of being really pissed at all the wasted time and the way the people acted.

i remember one time, my spouse and i decided to just get ripped.

we did and as we did, we laughed and even cried at times over the issues.

jambon

yes, heavily until 2 days ago. i know a lot who do in the org, elders too.

i look back now and see how my sneaking about with whisky bottles degraded me.

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I'm new here and have lots of questions

by jaada in

hello, i am new to this board, i am not a jehovahs witness however i studied with them for years, i went out into service a couple of times, but i havent done anything in 4 years.

i am so confused.

i always have been scared of the last days thing, but i could never accept the fact that while i was in the meetings, my husband and parents were all at home and the witnesses would tell me that unless they changed and started coming to the meetings that they would be killed!

jambon

The fear thing is strange.

The org say that catholics kept people in fear for years by means of the `cruel` hellfire teaching. - granted, it is an insane and cruel teaching, but how can they not see that imminent death at armageddon (if your not a jw) is any different.

If you look at the back of the latest kids book `learn from the great teacher` you can see the most horrific picture of teenagers and others dying at armageddon. This book is recomended for 8 years and upward! I just about ripped that page out when we got our copy, i was disgusted.

You see, its all the same thing - keep them frightened and they will stay in the religion. The thing is, this must be terrifying for a child growing up with this on their mind.

Loving, caring god? Hmm

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The Unkindest Cut: Hateful Words from JWs that Show Their True Colours

by Scully in

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i decided to start this topic when ozziepost shared the experience of a bethel representative telling him and mrs. ozzie "and don't forget, we've got your children!

it's important for us to hear these experiences and to share them with each other.

it helps us tear down the mistaken beliefs that the incidents that happen to us are not isolated ones, but are in fact par for the course when one parts ways with the jws and wts.

jambon

ammendment to previous post;

- when you said "bye" as you were passing him, he would retort "bye now, pay later" - this is his take on the advertising slogan `buy now, pay later` (you knew that though). It was as if we were fundamentally wicked/selfish etc for NOT going out on the f/s. Most of us were running the older bros/sis home - something he never done. He would go mental if you ever asked him to run someone home from a meeting.

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The Unkindest Cut: Hateful Words from JWs that Show Their True Colours

by Scully in

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friends

i decided to start this topic when ozziepost shared the experience of a bethel representative telling him and mrs. ozzie "and don't forget, we've got your children!

it's important for us to hear these experiences and to share them with each other.

it helps us tear down the mistaken beliefs that the incidents that happen to us are not isolated ones, but are in fact par for the course when one parts ways with the jws and wts.

jambon

There was a really self-righteous pioneer elder in our hall who would stand at the exit doors of the hall after the sunday meeting (he had a thing that everyone must go out on f/s, even the old ones who had been in pain sitting so long etc!!)

- when you said "bye" as you were passing him, he would retort "bye now, pay later" - this is his take on the advertising slogan `buy now, pay later` (you knew that though). It was as if we were fundamentally wicked/selfish etc for going out on the f/s. Most of us were running the older bros/sis home - something he never done. He would go mental if you ever asked him to run someone home from a meeting.

It`s a small thing, but most dreaded having to walk past him at the door of the hall - a nice thought to go away with from the shepherd, yeah, really encouraging!!

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What I learned in PSS

by zack in

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i actually learned to doubt.

the info presented there served to open my eyes to practices that i never knew were acceptable---like.

segregation in congs.

jambon

i went a few years back - it taught me that most pioneers are ok but when you are more obsessed with time than people then why bother??

stressing about having a cup of tea on a freezing winters day (we would have to deduct for it) - no thanks!

ps - a few took the pee outame when i pronounced hypogrammo, i pronounced the `H`

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Nearly out....

by jambon in

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guys, im deliriously happy that im nearly out.. my mind is now free of morbid, gloomy thoughts of the future.

its a freedom that is indeed priceless.. i now feel less need to drink (although im having a beer to celebrate just now)!!

i have been for some time atheist, i doubt it will ever change.

jambon

guys, im deliriously happy that im nearly out.

my mind is now free of morbid, gloomy thoughts of the future. its a freedom that is indeed priceless.

i now feel less need to drink (although im having a beer to celebrate just now)!!

I have been for some time atheist, i doubt it will ever change. when we had our 2 kids i just about had a breakdown over how much i loved them and still do. i thought `how can a loving god allow such bad things to happen to children` - the reasoning book maintains that god doesnt cause such things, but i feel if there was one, he couldnt so much as glance at what is going on, without acting.

other troubling thoughts - `what if my children needed a blood transfusion?` `how come all the good/human people keep leaving the truth?` `why does god require me to knacker myself going to meetings, f/s etc but tell me that his comands are not burdensome?`

but now....

its all gone, and what a relief. a bright future ahead for my beutiful, honest, loving family.

thanks for your ears and those who have helped me out over the past 2-3 days. all of this concludes a fight i have had for some 6 years (for 4 i believed). a decade wasted (apart from my lovely wife and 2 adored children)

j

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Is there new light on disfellowshipping?

by Chasity in

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i had no idea there were so many ex jw's.

i have been out since 1998. officially booted in feb. 2001. i am not sure on what grounds though because i never went to my meeting.

all i heard is that accusations had been made.

jambon

that km article from 2002 makes me physically sick.

i stood up and read that para by para on the review night! my, i have changed.

i new then it was sickening, only taking action now.

j

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Please help me

by jambon in

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i have posted a few mins ago - please read and reply - i need your help tonight, the wife is out and i need support - please

jambon

caps lock off!!

i am grateful for all your help. i will indeed fade.

at thet end of the day, i will not let my kids die, i will not make excusesa for paedos, i wil lnot take the fucking crap from my fellow m/s, i will love my non-jw, never have been jw parents and i will teach my children the real love that extends to everyone.

my wife is back soon, but keep posting,.........i will catch up through the week.

mucj love,

J

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Please help me

by jambon in

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friends

i have posted a few mins ago - please read and reply - i need your help tonight, the wife is out and i need support - please

jambon

Re: Please help me

Post 936 of 936
since 12-May-05

I feel so much sorry for you, because I am in a similar situation, only maybe a bit easier

But let me tell you, you are already free, because your mind is free.

Second, if you want to get you, do it slowly. Forcing it, does not help a bit, how much you would like it.

Maybe you can even win your wife, if you take it easy. When you force your way out you can loose probably everything. You need to plan it, that takes time.

So make a plan, follow that.

DB

- I KNOW TO TAKE I EASY - THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE. MY LIVER IS SUFFERING, IM DRINKING HARD. I NEED OUT NOW! I LOVE MY FAMILY OF NON-WITNESSES, I LOVE LIFE (THOUGH ITS HARD), I LOVE MY SON AND DAUGHTER AND I LOVE MY HOME TOWN, IN SCOTLAND. I CAN BREATHE, BUT I WANT TO LIVE AND ENJOY. THANKS TO EVERYONE, I THINK, WITH YOUR HELP, I MAY GET OUT SOON!