my poor baby has been in this awful funk all week.
he hates his current job so much and feels so completely unfulfilled.
he would love to do anything pertaining to drawing...especially being a tattoo artist, but he's just stuck in this awful rut.
To break this asrology hex on him (and maybe you), find out a few examples of really famous people also born on his birthday -
I say odds will have it that there is great diversity - for example: In my case, 9/15/49 - other 9/15 people include:
Ettore Bugatti, James Fenimore Cooper, Dan Marino, Agatha Christie, Murray Gell-man, Prince Charles 2nd Son, etc...and these were just the ones I remember off-hand because I liked them.
No rubber stamp there, eh?
James
something just occured to me: .
we all know that "parousia" doesn`t mean "invisble presence" at all, it just means "presence", but think about the inlogical...ness about the whole jw-doctrine on 1914. my question is: what is jesus` job really, up there in heaven?
- he "took reign" and was "given the throne" in 1914. but what does that mean, really?
Well, they had to provide some kind of story that Christ arrived in 1914...after all, they were caught with this little prophecy on their hands.
Kind of like my stepkid when he set his friend's front yard on fire with left over firecrackers...
His mom questions him - Vincent, we told you to get rid of those firecrackers - so where did you get them today? (it was January).
"Well, mom, I was just riding my bike over to Mikes, and there were these firecrackers laying there in the street..."
(Mom working hard to keep from laughing -) OK, Vincent, mom believes you. But where did you get the matches?
"Well, mom, I was just riding my bike a little further, and guess what! There was a box of matches!"
the story goes that god provided the rainbow as a symbol of his promise to never again destroy the world by flood.. noah and his family saw the rainbow after they left the ark.
after the waters had receeded.
after it had stopped raining for months.... yet a rainbow is simply sunlight spread out into its spectrum of colors and diverted to the eye of the observer by water droplets.
OK - so the real question here was: Does the Rainbow Covenant Disprove the Flood?
I say you cannot disprove myth that certain people choose to believe irregardless. How would I go about disproving area 51 and Roswell?
However, rainbow covenant does raise some startling questions...just on the physical science side -
Did god change the laws of diffraction just after the flood? There really was enough condensed water droplets or ice crystals in the upper atmosphere to actually obliterate the sun completely? All over the earth? For about 1500 years +++ since Adam? What would such a thing do to plant growth and atmospheric pressures? What would it do to the climate? Could the atmosphere actually sustain that much cloud cover for that long? If god had to maintain the canopy outside natural law, then it sort of looks like he was planning to flood man sometime from the get-go and was just holding back his water, so to speak...
And then, there is a moral/religious side:
Why did god destroy all those people at once - and, then immediately promise to never do it again (at least not by water)? If he wanted to get those bad angels, this was bad strategy...even WT says they just dematerialized and floated back up to the bad side of heaven. (OK - he got the Nethinim and their rape victim mothers, but they were the innocent parties in this sex crime). Was he admitting it was all a mistake? Were they really that much worse than people now? (well, manifestly not - we are going to get nuked at big A in a few years r.e.WT ) What's the big deal about killing by water deluge - if you are planning to later kill by fire and pestilence, then this rainbow covenant idea is all kind of a big hoax. (I.E. - rainbow means next time will be worse) I think I would just as soon drown as get roasted or succumb to the black plague.
For me, it is sort of a grand morality play as myth which tries to teach the danger of unnatural societal behavior - having implications on common human law, environmental science, etc. today. And, maybe inspired by some localized flood...other than that, too many problems for a literal interpretation.
James
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i was one of those.
i would go the the hall all dressed up like a good jw, listening to jw music in my car and would try to make a good comment at the hall, and when the meeting was over, i would get out of the hall as fast as possible, go home, almost rip off my shirt and suit and put my jeans and t shirt on and listen to rock music and watch some extreme sport on tv....and become worldly again as fast as possible.
Knew a presiding elder once who cracked up when he got counseled for something, and he threatened to sneak up an night and burn down the kingdom hall.
Just like the Clint Eastwood character riding out of town in "the unforgiven".
He was taken seriously.
a few months ago someone posted that the position of bether elder was to be removed.. i don't know how many bethel elders there were, but there must have been quite a few?.
are they just regular bethelites?
how would those under them feel, now that they're "one of us"?.
Well, maybe some legal eagle can explain this to me, but I still don't get it at all...
How would the government look at a bethel "elder" any different than an ordinary housekeeper for work-comp, FICA, or minimum wage? They don't care what religious title the person has.
Further, what exactly was the reason for getting rid of the whole arrangement? Was it non-scriptural? Were these people not bible-qualified elders individually? Every single last one of them? If not, why not just let them keep what little shreds of dignity they had until they got sent home to pioneer?
Just doesn't make sense to me.
it's been pretty well established that all religions use fear as a motivator, to some degree.
the jw's have honed this practice to a near art form.
what were you most afraid of when you were a jw?
1. I was always afraid that the other kids at school would find out we were JWs. Really.
2. I was also afraid that my parents would find out I saluted the flag because of fear #1. I rationalized it because the bible says nothing about the flag salute.
apparantly he is the oldest survivor of the holocaust at 101 years old and he is one of jehovahs witnesses.
Thanks Tex - that clears up the misunderstanding I had:
Today Leopold Engleitner is the oldest survivor of the concentration camps Buchenwald and Niederhagen.
This may just go to show how urban legends can get started...isn't it sad that all the hyperbole just causes mistrust and disrespect for this poor guy?
I guess I am a little ashamed to have doon the quick lookup on him - he seems to be legit, but I still can't help but think there are a lot of other victims of Hitler still around as well...
Sincerely, James
apparantly he is the oldest survivor of the holocaust at 101 years old and he is one of jehovahs witnesses.
If you check out this website - it is apparantly an association for the aid of Jewish holocause victims:
http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=228
It states that recently (late Dec. 2005) the Holocaust survivors living in the Eu Union have just had their monthly compensation payments increased from $162 per month to $210...it continues to say that there are about 17,000 persons receiving this money.
The Leopold Engleitner search finds numerous references to promotional literature and tv/film documentaries. There was a recent tour of the US, Canada in which he was said to be 101yrs of age. He does indeed claim to be the "last surviving holocaust victim". Without taking anything away from someone who has suffered such a serious fate, I just wonder -
Is it possible that this gentlemen would be better termed "last surviving JW holocaust victim"?
the story goes that god provided the rainbow as a symbol of his promise to never again destroy the world by flood.. noah and his family saw the rainbow after they left the ark.
after the waters had receeded.
after it had stopped raining for months.... yet a rainbow is simply sunlight spread out into its spectrum of colors and diverted to the eye of the observer by water droplets.
Please refer to the mosquito thread - it makes more sense...
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i tried to finish mowing the lawn this morning and just couldn't.. there were about 775 mosquitoes around me .
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Do you think the Venus Fly Trap will just gain nourishment from the earth and quit eating flys in the new system?
