Posts by GoingGoingGone

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A New Theory of the Universe

by BurnTheShips in

jw
friends

robert lanza has literally written the book on stem cell science and delves into the issue of consciousness, reality, and a biocentric view of the universe.. .

while i was sitting one night with a poet friend watching a great opera performed in a tent under arc lights, the poet took my arm and pointed silently.

why does the universe exist?

Nothing but the Blood - Chapter 8 (Final)

by daniel-p in

jw
friends

[this is the true story of my life.

i'm posting it in installments.

the final installment will include post-script-type thoughts, with acknowledgements to those who've helped me along these last two years, as well as those who've been an inspiration.

GoingGoingGone

Amazing story. Amazing writing. Thank you for sharing it with us.

GGG

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Watchtower Comments THE GENERATION CHANGE Featuring LEOLAIA

by V in

GoingGoingGone

Leolaia, that was an amazing review! I'm in awe at the thoroughness of your research. As always.

I wish I could get my husband to read this.

Thank you Leolaia and V!

GGG

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i'm just sat working on a new version of the forum (to bring it more up-to-date and make it better for non-ie browsers) and notice the date on the first post of the backup database that i'm working against ... 23 march 2000.. i can't believe it's been 8 years !

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thank you to everyone who has participated over the years and helped keep this place alive to help others coming out of the wts.

GoingGoingGone

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JWD!!!

And thank you Simon, for keeping this site running. It's been a life saver for me, and I'll be forever grateful.

GGG

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Ex-JWs... feelings of isolation, agoraphobia...?

by Moxie in

hi all... :) sorry for the novel.... i'm just wondering if there are any others out there who share similar experiences as me or have any comments and insight.... when i was a jw i was very, very social and active with friends and family in a wide range of activities.

i would even have considered myself the party-starter ;).

i used to plan events and social get togethers for all kinds of situations.

GoingGoingGone

I'm sorry you're going through this, but I can soooo relate! I was raised a JW and I had a ton of very very good friends. I'm not DF'd, I've just faded but our friends avoid me if they can now.

I think your feelings absolutely have to do with shattered trust. You were your authentic self with your JW friends, and they rejected you, so now you don't trust yourself to choose good friends, and you can't deal with the possibility of being rejected again. So you build a wall around yourself and don't let anyone in.

Like you, I've also found this site to be a lifesaver. The fact that so many of us feel this way makes you realize that you're normal, you're reacting in a normal way to an abnormal situation. And I think that simply realizing that is helpful. You're normal, you've been hurt and you have a right to feel angry/disappointed/sad. So allow yourself to acknowledge the hurt. I think that one has to grieve the losses they suffer when they are DF'd - you lose family, friends, your entire lifestyle, etc. Not unlike the 5 stages of grief one goes through when a loved one dies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

Enumeration of stages

The stages are:

Denial: The initial stage: "It can't be happening."
Anger: "Why me? It's not fair."
Bargaining: "Just let me live to see my children graduate."
Depression: "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"
Acceptance: "It's going to be OK."

Kübler-Ross originally applied these stages to any form of catastrophic personal loss (job, income, freedom). This also includes the death of a loved one and divorce.

Maybe you've never allowed yourself time to grieve your loss?

Stick around here, we're glad to have you and your experiences help us, too! PM me if you need to talk!

GGG

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Went to the Memorial Last Night

by B_Deserter in

the hall i went to had some guy from bethel who literally sounded like a 12-year-old giving the talk.

all i could think about was v's video about the memorial and how it's nothing but an infomercial for jehovah's witnesses.

i realized why the memorial is "so important" to jehovah's witnesses: it's their biggest recruiting day of the year!

GoingGoingGone

I went to the Memorial last night - for my husband.

They had the "privilege" of having a Bethel speaker, who spoke as if he were addressing a room full of 4 year olds. UNbelievable. Same ol' crud.... 144,000 is a literal number, and you're not one of them! Oh and come to our Special Talk in a couple of weeks, so you too can have Jehovah's blessing like we do.

The last time I was in a KH was 2 years ago (for the Memorial), and I was a nervous wreck. Just stepping foot in the building made me feel sick to my stomach. Last night, though, I was not nervous at all. It's just a building, these are just people, and they have no control over my life. Well, maybe they do, but I know how to play their game now, and I'm not afraid of them!

Got love bombed, of course, but it's very easy to turn the conversation away from me and over to them. Still glad it's over, though!

GGG

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Sharing my sad news with you

by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit in

jw
friends

my great nephew, 8 months old, was killed yesterday.

so far appears to have been murdered by his sitter, a couple with whom my nephew and his girlfriend have been living.

they beat and drowned this little baby.

GoingGoingGone

I'm so very sorry for your loss. What a horrific tragedy.

GGG

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Dress & Grooming for visiting Bethel. scans inside!!!!!11 LOL

by karvel in

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GoingGoingGone

Do you have to wear a friggen skirt or suit to the farm too???

Yup. Even in the 70s when they actually had a farm there, with livestock and vegetable fields. You had to walk through the dirt in your high heels.

And who uses the word "slacks" anymore, anyway??!?

GGG

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SCANFEST - PDFs of Extreme Watchtower Articles

by AlphaOmega in

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sm4r2y.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0fkcsd.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3swelp.

GoingGoingGone

Thanks so much for these!!! You guys are amazing!

And I wanted to ask all you diligent scanners - My husband has 3 big plastic containers full of WT books. He's getting ready to toss most of them, because they have them all on CD now. BUT.... is there anything I should save? I'm not sure what's in there yet, but are there any 1st edition books that were changed when they were put on CD, for example??

I just don't really know what to look for. You guys are so much more informed than me. So if there's anything anyone needs or anything I should save for future scanning, please let me know and I'll see if it's in there!

There probably isn't anything older than from about the early 1960, though.

GGG

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I cannot believe this

by bite me in

okay, it is like this... i have a friend who's belief is so strong in the watchtower.

they have missed "several" (three) meetings.

they said they do not want to get into trouble for missing so many.

GoingGoingGone

I have a very devout JW friend who is the most genuinely caring person I know. A while back, a woman in her congregation was having a lot of physical problems and finally received the diagnosis of MS. She was fairly young and was completely devistated.

My friend called and told this young woman how sorry she was, and went to her house that evening just to keep her company and offer support. However, she was criticized by other JWs because she missed the meeting that night!!! She told me the story, and was feeling guilty about missing the meeting, and I told her NOT to be. I told her that we spend 5 hours a week at meetings, learning how to be Christians (at the time she wasn't aware that I was inactive.) What you did that night, I said, was actually being Christian. What is the point of learning about being loving, and then dismissing an opportunity to act loving when the need arises?

My friend agreed with me. But when she said this to others who criticized her missing the meeting, they told her that she could have offered support some other time. In other words: You may not show your concern for others if it interferes with the meetings.

GGG