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  Drum Article written by JWFacts

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here's a link written by paul grundy and presented by abc the drum.

  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-10/grundy-flaws-in-jehovahs-witness/6680286 .

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  ThomasCovenant

  Thank you jwfacts. Very concise and accurate.

  I've copied it and am thinking of printing it out to give my parents.
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  Branch Manual 2015

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  2. scandals

  apparently the backroom arguments have been heard and decided.

  the royal commission finally uploaded a redacted version of the 2015 branch manual.

  watchtower lawyers were looking to have as much redacted from this manual as possible.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Thanks.

  First section on 'Governing Body'.

  'The Governing Body is organized to take the lead as Jehovah directs it by holy spirit. The members of the Governing Body do not regard themselves as leaders of Jehovah's people.'' (No, we leave that for you to do).

  ''the Governing Body always takes the lead in promoting the smooth functioning of the organization and the unity of all of God's people.''

  ''The Governing Body gives final approval for new publications as well as new audio and video programs.''

  There is a diagram too showing the Governing body at the top of the six committees.
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  REQUEST: Link to Funeral Talk Outline

  by AudeSapere in

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  2. friends

  can someone please send me a link to the outline for the funeral talk?i'm on my cell phone and having trouble using the search function.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Last funeral I went to for an elder (about two years ago) they didn't keep to this outline.

  It was very personalised.
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

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  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  ThomasCovenant

  ''The fact that nobody has gone back.''

  Five more times.

  All that secrecy and hoaxing another five times?
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  Rodney Spinks' Performance

  by maksutov in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it seems like there has not been as much discussion here about the rc testimony on day 6 (4th august) as there has been about previous days.

  i was quite surprised by rodney spinks' testimony, which was a marked contrast to the bungling and inarticulate testimony of the elders that appeared before him.

  spinks seemed reasonably co-operative, and a lot more willing to concede points than anyone else has been.

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  ThomasCovenant

  ''Spinks seemed reasonably co-operative, and a lot more willing to concede points than anyone else has been''

  That's because he is in a position of authority and can bend the rules to suit.

  The elders couldn't concede because they were not allowed to concede anything otherwise they'd be going against those in authority of them, i.e. people like Stinks.
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  Transcripts of the Royal Commission (Australia). Where?

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  during the week i was able to download some of the transcripts of the proceedings direct from .

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au.

  but i cannot find them on their site now, (weekend).. are they still available or going to be?.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Oops. Just found them again.

  Home Page.

  Public Hearings.

  Case Studies.

  Voila!
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  Transcripts of the Royal Commission (Australia). Where?

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  during the week i was able to download some of the transcripts of the proceedings direct from .

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au.

  but i cannot find them on their site now, (weekend).. are they still available or going to be?.

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  ThomasCovenant

  During the week I was able to download some of the transcripts of the proceedings direct from

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au

  But I cannot find them on their site now, (weekend).

  Are they still available or going to be?
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  JW EXPERT WITNESS FLOORED BY COMMISSION OF INQUIRY LAWYER

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  much has already been written about dr monica applewhite, the expert witness hired by the jw organization.

  her job was to provide "expert" testimony to the australian commission of inquiry into jehovsh's witnesses' policies and practices on child sexual abuse.

  astonishingly, dr applewhite was unprepared for the inquiry lawyers' questions.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Mephis,

  ''But her reports have fed the JW view of themselves. That they are different, that they are God's chosen organisation, that they do everything better than anyone else. For them, that's the point they are defending. They see everything as 'one bad apple' or 'a failure of parents'. They are absolutely blind to the concept that their religious practices, beliefs and formal procedures create the climate where not only can abuse continue unchecked, but which may also contribute to abuse happening in the first place.''

  Very well put.
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  LURKING JW: Thinking of leaving? Learn from my experience.

  by SnakesInTheTower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "mental wondering in the wilderness"... uh oh.... it's a long post from snakes.... lol.

  yep... i think that is the best way to describe where i am at in life right now.

  if you have read my past posts (mostly in the private section) you know some of my history as a life-long (now former) witness.. i have been away from the jw religion, for all intents and purposes, since dec. 06, though it was not until sept 07 that i stopped attending meetings.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Hi.

  I remember when you were Sankes.
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  BBC Radio 4. The Report. ''Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Sexual Abuse''. Thursday 9th July 8pm.

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  2. child-abuse

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0612hjs

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  ThomasCovenant

  In June, the High Court ruled that the Jehovah's Witnesses organisation was liable for sexual abuse committed by one of its members.

  The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain - to give the group its official name - had failed to take adequate safeguarding steps when senior members of the organisation were aware that a fellow Witness was a known paedophile.

  It was the first civil case in the UK of historical sexual abuse brought against the Christian-based religious movement.

  The BBC's Religious Affairs Correspondent, Caroline Wyatt, explores the implications of the Court's decision and investigates the child safeguarding policies of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

  The Report hears from former Witnesses who have suffered abuse and who claim that rather than protecting children, the Society provides a 'paedophile's paradise' that encourages allegations of abuse to be dealt with in-house, rather than by the police.

  The programme investigates how the group's Elders are instructed to act when they receive an allegation of sexual abuse, and asks whether the Jehovah's Witnesses have a systematic problem in the way it deals with such complaints.