https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6513107/Sister-woman-drowned-daughter-says-teenage-drug-fuelled-parties-drove-insanity.html
Headline says JW but then further on says a 'former' JW. Either way a tragedy for all.
ThomasCovenant
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What a tragedy. Reported as a JW but actually a former JW.
by ThomasCovenant inhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6513107/sister-woman-drowned-daughter-says-teenage-drug-fuelled-parties-drove-insanity.html.
headline says jw but then further on says a 'former' jw.
either way a tragedy for all..
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Hello Everyone, Another JW Has Left!
by SuperGirl injust want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.
i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.
the religion has become a nut house.
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ThomasCovenant
Welcome. Thanks for introducing yourself.
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They would Stone us if the law would allow
by ElderEtta inseveral years ago unless i was dreaming i read a watchtower quotation that effectively said that they would execute us as disfellowshipped individuals if the law would allow.. was i dreaming?.
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ThomasCovenant
''None of that is phrased as past tense''
I apologise,
I took it that the phrase ''Several years ago...... I read'' to be past tense,
as I understood the past tense of 'to read' to be the word 'read', pronounced 'red'.
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They would Stone us if the law would allow
by ElderEtta inseveral years ago unless i was dreaming i read a watchtower quotation that effectively said that they would execute us as disfellowshipped individuals if the law would allow.. was i dreaming?.
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ThomasCovenant
I'm not quite sure I follow what you are getting at Simon.
I didn't read the the OP as trying to nail the WTS to the stake for a snippet of a phrase they printed in 1952, but I may have misinterpreted.
I took it they were asking if they were correct in their recollection and JWFacts answered with the information to clarify. Job done.
What's the big deal with the date?
What helped me out of the religion was reading stuff that had been printed before I was born by the religion I was a part of.
I only wish that I'd known the shit they had printed including this about apostates and yes I would certainly use the 1952 quote to point out what the religion is really like.
Just as I would use the 1928 quotation about the Pleiades constellation being the suggested dwelling place of Jehovah which I believe, if I am correct in my recollection, helped you in your leaving the Witness religion.
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They would Stone us if the law would allow
by ElderEtta inseveral years ago unless i was dreaming i read a watchtower quotation that effectively said that they would execute us as disfellowshipped individuals if the law would allow.. was i dreaming?.
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ThomasCovenant
''Only a complete moron'' would understand the OP to mean that the quote was from several years ago as opposed to 'I read it several years ago'.
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They would Stone us if the law would allow
by ElderEtta inseveral years ago unless i was dreaming i read a watchtower quotation that effectively said that they would execute us as disfellowshipped individuals if the law would allow.. was i dreaming?.
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ThomasCovenant
Several MINUTES ago unless I was dreaming I read a watchtower quotation that effectively said that they would execute us as disfellowshipped individuals if the law would allow.
Morpheus............... So, 1952 is your definition of “several MINUTES ago”?
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Yet another molester
by ThomasCovenant inhttps://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/senior-jehovahs-witness-sexually-abused-15375089.
accused, i should add..
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Epiphany #2
by Solzhenitsyn inso after much emotional struggle out into the open comes why my dear wife continues to want to stay with the wt organization.. i simply couldn't understand why someone so intelligent would suffer from such confusion wether to stay active or fade away when she has faced and accepted the anti-jw facts.
simply put: she was raised with such sick instability that jw life was the only thing that provided stability, the only thing she felt she could count on.
to this day this remains the primary reason she stays "in".
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ThomasCovenant
I was in a similar place.
I didn't believe a single word of the religion for years but I carried on going for the 'association'.
Being a bit of a loner I had no social life outside the Witnesses, so was content to go along.
It took the blood transfusion issue with my wife to snap me out of it.
Next day finished.
I consider every JW that still attends even for the same reason that I did to be partly responsible for every death that results from the blood transfusion policy and partly responsible for every rape of a child that takes place under its security blanket.
I couldn't live with that anymore.
Every one that still attends has a ripple effect to ensure that others still attend even though they may not believe it anymore. Peer pressure.
If more unbelievers just left other unbelievers would just leave too.
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Family is now reaping what they sowed and they don't like it.
by Gemmel ini resigned from the jw's in my 20's over 30 years ago, i was immediately shunned by my entire family and it's remained that way with a few exceptions ever since.
one of those exceptions was being contacted by a cousin a few years back and during that conversation i discovered that my mother had been and still was the prime mover in my complete and continuing shunning.
i then used what contacts i had left to confirm it.
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ThomasCovenant
Another tragedy from a mistaken belief in a sky god.
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What was the EXACT exJW website you first visited and why EXACTLY did you visit it?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
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ThomasCovenant
It was http://quotes.watchtower.ca.
That website was simply showing quotes of various watchtower teachings within their respective context. I remember I watched it as there were no "apostate" comments over them and they were in fact, clearly in their context.
And then, the watchtower had the web site shot down using copyright laws: I was shocked, SHOCKED! How could they shut down a site that simply displayed information that I was giving away for free every Saturday morning?? Besides, I could not imagine that Jesus would have done something similar either.
The same, exactly the same. Although I had already started to wake up (before I had internet access) from reading some pre 1930 WT publications and then being told in the WT study a rewritten version of their history. Why lie about their past? That's right, its not a good look. lets remove our embarrassing past.
The same for me too, exactly the same