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  Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

  by elderess in

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  2. friends

  only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

  then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

  thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Thank you for telling and best wishes to you both.
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  BBC Radio 4. 14th February 2016. ''Sunday'' program with article on Witnesses and child abuse.

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the sunday programme investigates allegations that the jehovah's witness ordered the destruction of documents that could be used during the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse.

  was this in contravention of section 21 of the inquiries act 2005 which is punishable by imprisonment?.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0709v34.

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  The Sunday programme investigates allegations that the Jehovah's Witness ordered the destruction of documents that could be used during the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse. Was this in contravention of Section 21 of the Inquiries Act 2005 which is punishable by imprisonment?
  

  
  
  

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0709v34
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  New here

  by MarkofCane in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello and thanks to everyone for participating on this forum it has really been of much value, for those of you that post here know that your words are not lost you never know who is reading your expressions, lives are being changed and nonsense challenged.

  i’m not much of a writer so excuse my untrained writing style and grammar but i want to share my story to help anyone who is visiting here to see that we are real people, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who have come here for answers, there is no agenda, just searching for truth.

  i hope my story will help others as so many here have helped me..

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  ThomasCovenant

  Thanks for posting.

  It's a bummer realizing you've been had isn't it.
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  Massive Plunge in Number of New JW Congregations from 1990 to 2014

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in a separate thread on the very latest figures for the current world wide annual report of jws, discussion turned to how "we'll know decline has really set in.

  one of the posters said: .

  the figure that interests me most is the number of congregations.

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  ThomasCovenant

  According to the figures above;

  From '89 to '97 inclusive,

  Average of 4.3 baptisms per congregation of 62 publishers

  From '08 to '15 inclusive,

  Average of 2.5 baptisms per congregation of 67 publishers.

  Average congregation size has increased by 8%
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  The Hermit's story PART 1

  by The Hermit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my great-grandmother was a jw, my grandmother is a jw, my mother and two of my aunts are jws.

  in 1983 mom, then 18 years old married my father, a wordly man and was baptized later the same year at a district convention.

  i was born in 1984.. my bedtime stories consisted of the bible stories and you can live forever books.

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  ThomasCovenant

  ''he'd be destroyed at Armageddon. Other than smoking cigarettes there was hardly anything wrong with my dad,''

  Had to laugh at that.

  Thanks for sharing.

  Looking back, what a twisted way to bring up kids.

  Constantly thinking everyone is going to be killed any day now.
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  My Bethwl Experience Part 11

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  more about cars and n.y.c.. .

  back then hundreds of cars were stolen, in the city every day!

  the new york post said "the average life span of a corvette (sports car) parked on the street was 24 hours!

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  ''Any way, he gets out of the car and starts jacking up the back end. Just then.........a car pulls up in front of him and 4 black guys jump out and before he could say a word, they start jacking up the front end of his car.........."HEY what are you doing" he asked ............."HEY MOTHER F.....KER!..........YOU GET THE BACK TWO ...........AND WE WILL GET THE FRONT TWO"......they said ........"But this is MY car".......he said .........."yeah?"...they said ......"YES" he said..........10 seconds later they were down the road, looking for more parts.''

  That made me laugh, thank you.
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  Those keenly following umbertoecho ARC Brief Update.

  by MightyV8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i feel it is comfortable to say,.

  yes her arc hearing has come and gone.. yes her hearing was so powerful, her allotted time was tripled!.

  yes, information handed over "mind blowing" response from arc.

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  ThomasCovenant

  I'm a bit confused.

  Are we talking about the Royal Commission in Australia that dealt with JW's back in July and August?

  Are they still looking into the Witnesses?
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  Should doctors tell JW patients that there is disagreement about Watchtower's blood policy.

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this has been a controversial issue among doctors and medical ethicists.

  i think it basically comes down to the fact that physicians have a responsibility to establish the presence of informed consent.

  is it really possible for a person to give informed consent if they are not accurately informed?.

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  Slimboyfat said,

  '' It's treating them a bit infantile.''

  Most Witnesses, including myself at the time, are when it comes to the blood doctrine.

  Mummy and Daddy said I mustn't, so I mustn't.
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  The story of my exit

  by mrsObfuscate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been lurking here for about 6 months, and being the last day of the year, and ready to start the new one afresh, i want to share the story of our exit from the org.

  i have found the personal experiences of others of immeasurable value, (and its been a while since a good exit story has been posted) that i hope this can be of benefit to at least someone.. .

  my mother became a jehovahs witness when i was about 9 or 10. i remember initially hating all of the new sanctions put on our lives (no birthdays and christmas anymore) but for some reason i soon after joined her in attending the meetings and eventually got baptized at the age of 14. my staunch catholic father converted a couple of years later.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Thank you for posting.

  '' I no longer have to half-heartedly try to convince them [my children] of believing in something I am not convinced of myself.''

  That was the same for me.

  Your story is probably the same for tens of thousands of others.
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  Another Up Building Field Service Experience

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the following was from a friend of mine:.

  yesterday for the first time in the 2 years we've been living here.

  two 50+ year old women.

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  ThomasCovenant

  The following was from a friend of mine:

  Yesterday for the first time in the 2 years we've been living here. Two 50+ year old women. They came via the back driveway so were wandering around looking for the front door. I knew who they were instantly, so eagerly opened the conservatory for them.

  
  

  Them: Could we interest you in....

  
  

  Me: Jehovah's witnesses?

  
  

  Them: Yes:

  
  

  Me: Not interested thanks

  
  

  Them: Any particular reason for that?

  
  

  Me: Yes I was brought up as one.
  

  
  

  Them: Oh! What made you leave?

  
  

  Me: Science. The bible is a work of fiction, and not a very pleasant one at that, and I just can't

  believe the nonsense it suggests really happened. Not only that, but it's not a very nice

  organisation; oppressive to women and abusive to children, and totally hypocritical in the way the governing body behave; not to mention the way they change their doctrine constantly. Like every other religion but more controlling.

  
  

  Them: Well, luckily we all have free will so you were allowed to make that decision for yourself.

  
  

  Me: Yes, I have free will, but you certainly don't. Try telling the elders you've read a book by Richard Dawkins called "the greatest show on earth" proving evolution is fact, and see what happens. In fact tell them you've read "anything" that wasn't authorized by the governing body and see what happens. I guarantee your display of free will, will be stamped out immediately. Better yet, tell your friend there (pointing at the silent woman next to her); I assume you consider her a friend right? Well tell her that you don't believe what the witnesses teach anymore. Watch how quickly your friendship evaporates. She'll never speak another word to you for as long as you live, and neither will any of the other friends you have, and possibly neither will your own family depending on how fearful they are of using their free will. All your relationships are conditional, and are primarily reliant on you definitely never using your free will.

  
  

  Them: Ok bye.

  
  

  I then went in and treated myself to a nice mince pie [wife] had just baked. A job well done. Merry Christmas!