Dear Sparkplug, what your young heart has been through.
This fascinates me. This is something that is seldom discussed. How some struggle to serve Jehovah, but the struggle proves too much. There are some great stories of human pathos out there.
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Was Anyone Disfellowshipped Twice? How About Three Times?
by anewme inyears ago there was this guy ****** ******* i'll never forget him.
disfellowshipped 3 times!!!!
at the last dfing announcement the brother got up there and yelled into the mic .
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Was Anyone Disfellowshipped Twice? How About Three Times?
by anewme inyears ago there was this guy ****** ******* i'll never forget him.
disfellowshipped 3 times!!!!
at the last dfing announcement the brother got up there and yelled into the mic .
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anewme
What? Dune are you saying you would forgive drugs and immorality, but not adultery?
Does adultery seem to you to be the worst sin?
What about abuse or perversions or pedophilia or murder?
Is there any sin Jehovah will not forgive?
I personally dont believe there is.
They say sinning against the holy spirit is unforgiveable. Perhaps the brothers can deny a reinstatement to someone if they want to enough. Do they do that? Deny reinstatement?
(I'm sure if my P.O. brother in law had his way he'd deny my reinstatement)
Some may not have Gods view of things and only want to prove themselves right and "damn" a person forever.
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Was Anyone Disfellowshipped Twice? How About Three Times?
by anewme inyears ago there was this guy ****** ******* i'll never forget him.
disfellowshipped 3 times!!!!
at the last dfing announcement the brother got up there and yelled into the mic .
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anewme
Wow, maybe there are alot of people who keep trying to get it right. There is alot of pain in those stories, but maybe alot of faith too. Some people struggle very hard while others breeze through this life.
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Was Anyone Disfellowshipped Twice? How About Three Times?
by anewme inyears ago there was this guy ****** ******* i'll never forget him.
disfellowshipped 3 times!!!!
at the last dfing announcement the brother got up there and yelled into the mic .
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anewme
Years ago there was this guy ****** ******* I'll never forget him. Disfellowshipped 3 times!!!!
At the last dfing announcement the brother got up there and yelled into the mic
"So and so is disfellowshipped from the Christian Congregation!"
It was kind of a sad thing, but after three times it was kind of funny too!
I wonder if ****** ever made it back again?
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Should I get Disfellowshipped? (sorry, it's excommunicated, now)
by Lilycurly inmy mother and i have been baptised, and we both faded.
without a try from anyone, elder or other to get us back.
the thing is, my father is still in.
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anewme
My advice is no. Why would you want to test your sweet father like that? He has enough already to deal with it sounds like. You are getting along quite well somehow, why not leave it? Disfellowshipping is no laughing matter. True, you may laugh at first, but the thrill of it wears off fast.
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For those who Believe the bible to be true............
by defd inwho is your favorite bible character and, or, account and why?
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anewme
Nice thread..... I always liked to hear the story about Joseph. That story has everything...a hero...a foe...a plot....and a great ending.
Also they said Joseph was very handsome! I like to think about that. Handsome and hard to get!
We had some really gorgeous young people in our old hall. They were very zealous in their worship.
Men and women were always trying to break them down in and outside of the hall.
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Battle Royal.
by Daunt inwhen i told my mom and dad that i did not believe in the truth, i was jumping into unknown territory.
it has just never happened before.
now my parents are trying harder than ever to bring me back into the ranks.
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anewme
I agree with Peaceful Pete. I fear this exercise of yours may turn into a painful war you might be unprepared to pay the consequences for the things said.
Your parents love you Daunt. I feel for them. I feel for you too. I too have felt the extreme pressure of doubts about the whole JW thing.
Hindsight is so much better than foresight they say and that is so true.
To confront family and friends in such a way as to make them defensive and then have them mark you as an unfit association might be handled differently if given the opportunity. But once the damage is done there is no turning back. And once you have tasted the shunning act it can turn your heart completely rebellious in response to it.
But why go there? Peaceful Pete advised to honor your father and mother with the kind acknowledgement of their sincere interest in you but to politely remind them of your own views which they might have to accept. Ease them into the truth that you are your own person and will make up your mind about all these things and it may be you will come to a different conclusion than they.
Anyway, hang in there Daunt.
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Battle Royal.
by Daunt inwhen i told my mom and dad that i did not believe in the truth, i was jumping into unknown territory.
it has just never happened before.
now my parents are trying harder than ever to bring me back into the ranks.
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Low Low Low Self Esteem
by joelbear inman, if i don't solve this problem i'm gonna be dead one way or another.. i know i need to build self esteem.
i am focusing on bringing things into my life that i find real fulfillment in.. i had little fulfillment as a witness.
really only the pleasure i got from bible studies, of which i really only had about 10 real ones of.
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anewme
JB, this will pass.....but you DO NEED TO DO SOMETHING!
I have suffered from depression since my teens, the typical kind of depression and low self esteem resulting from having an alcoholic mother who successfully drank herself to death by the time I was 19.
Past hurtful events we cannot change. But with alot of wisdom and maturity we can see them in a different light so they no longer hurt us so much.
As children we created a picture of ourselves by how we think our parents or significant persons in our lives viewed us. Just a casual remark by someone significant can affect a childs heart for the rest of its life!
But as adults now we can sympathize with the challenges of adults and if they saw us as less than brilliant
it many times was the result of their being so embroiled in their own problems and hangups they werent our full time nurturers.
So what do we do now as adults, still seeking approval or applause or nurturing?
We must give it to ourselves....
And we must give it to others.....
We must keep trying to undo the harmful works of others who hurt us (whether intentional or unintentionally)
Sometimes it requires GETTING MAD at the past! And shaking the dust off our feet and turning our backs completely on someone who hurt us so callously (as many here have done with the WBTS which hurt them so badly.) We turn around and walk deliberately in the opposite direction! We become creators of a completely different story for our life. We think and act like winners! We get out there and MAKE A HAPPY LIFE HAPPEN!
Sometimes it can take 10 days or longer if we wait for something to happen.
Oooh, I think I just encouraged myself!!!!
Take care JB,
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Does anyone who Left Jehovahs Organization, still......
by defd inread the bible daily?
honestly do you?
or is it collecting dust on a table or shelf somewhere?
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He does have a point. The Bible does have a calming effect when reading certain parts....like the words of Jesus in the 4 gospel accounts and the sermon on the mount Matt. 5.......or some of the psalms and Ecclesiastes. I always like John 11 of the account of Lazarus' death and Jesus' teaching on that.
I am calmed when I read about Gods love and feel though I am dfd and not going to meetings at the KH that I am still loved by a God who still cares for me and understands me. Reading the Bible encourages me to pray.
I am moved to thank God for all the good things in my life right now. The scriptures such as the Psalms can help put words to deep feelings of gratitude.
I used to type all the talks for my elder husband for 20 years. I even helped write many of them, as well as wedding and funeral discourses, as my english skills were better than his. We were a team in that regard. He had limited use of his hands, being a quadriplegic, so I had to also type out all the scriptures. Up on the platform he "faked" turning to the scriptures with the side of his hand and read from our manuscript.
I have so much of Gods word in my heart and on the tip of my tongue I will never forget it.
Jesus said that is where it should be.
He never said you had to read it daily, just love it daily.