Love it, it's my new "Lost"...
My only nitpick, "WHY" doesn't someone ask Charlie about D. Gibbons.
i saw the premiere at the end of last month, but just watched the next two episodes on the web.
thought it was rather interesting.
i have never read the book on which this show is based.
Love it, it's my new "Lost"...
My only nitpick, "WHY" doesn't someone ask Charlie about D. Gibbons.
for a group that claims not to believe in hell, why do jws fear satan and demons so much?
a quick search on my 2003 wt cd reveals over 14,000 references just to satan's name..what is the worst thing satan could do to a jw?
wow...thats a story ive never heard, but hey its way way different to mine !!!!!!!
Be nice to see a little sympathy shown for that family of four.
Cas
... how did you handle to let others know you do not consider yourself as one of jws anymore?
did you tell them straigh?
did you explain details?.
"Worldly" people are much more tolerant and understanding. They seemed pleased that I had given it up, and did not hold against me the self righteous tactless things I had sometimes said in the past.
I've experienced this also. Some of my extended family at reunions still come up and ask, after a brief explaination... they're all hugs and seemed relieved.
Cas
I love animals, all kinds... always have and always will. We had a CO tell us one time from the stage that "Animals have their place, and that PLACE is outside".
At the time, I had two very small dogs that I kept in the house, there was no way I was throwing them outside.
Since I never noticed his "Opinion" in print, I never gave it another thought.
I think a lot of it is just that, opinions... most of which, should be kept to themselves.
this is just an obsevation from me...ok i dont mean to annoy anyone but is it true or just me?.
i feel that ones raised in the truth are so much better of than us who came in from the world.
i say that because they have family who are witnesses too.
I agree and I hope what I wrote didn't seem to trivialize the experience of a convert leaving the religion. I was speaking more about being in the religion... I think even when one still believes in the religion, in the back of their minds a convert knows they have that safety net wheras a born in does not... and I do think that effects those who are raised as witnesses significantly.
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Great post
I think you expressed it perfectly. I am happy that you were also able to find a safety net of sorts, upon leaving. I wish it were so for everyone.
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this is just an obsevation from me...ok i dont mean to annoy anyone but is it true or just me?.
i feel that ones raised in the truth are so much better of than us who came in from the world.
i say that because they have family who are witnesses too.
Those who convert into the religion know that their families love them no matter what, assuming it is a normal, healthy relationship. Perhaps their families don't agree with their decision to join the witnesses, but there is no shunning or such. And if a convert leaves they have that family and old friends to fall back on... a built in parachute for the jump back into the world. There is always the knowledge there that they have something or someone to fall back on.
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TheSilence,
That is exactly how it was for me, my family welcomed me back with open arms, as though I had never left. It was very easy to blend back into my former life as though those 13 years had never happened to a point.
I do think converts and those born in do share some similarities though upon leaving, both have to struggle with the mindset, the guilt, the fear and the what if's... plus the occasional shunning by JW's.
I cannot imagine trying to escape a cult without family backing, that would have to be a very devastating thing to do, as evidenced by these experiences. My heart goes out to you all who have, and are, enduring such trials.
this is just an obsevation from me...ok i dont mean to annoy anyone but is it true or just me?.
i feel that ones raised in the truth are so much better of than us who came in from the world.
i say that because they have family who are witnesses too.
Adults that joined of their own volition are to be pitied, mainly. Many are not quite right in the head, and need medication and therapy to adjust to life in the real world.
Seriously, being a convert myself, I resent that remark....
Cas
after 33 years of being mind controlled at 5 meetings a week, field service meetings, special day assembly, curcuit assembly,district assembly, finding out "the truth" is just a big hoax is like getting punched in the stomach-uppercut in the jaw-being kicked in the balls from behind and then having the rug ripped out from under you and smashing your head on the ground.
what was it like for everyone else?.
Being let out of prison....
Cas
sign this petition!!
dont let our granma leave us!!!!!
dont go mouthy!!!
Count me in...
It wouldn't be the same without you !!!
Cas
it has come to my attention that a much-beloved poster on this forum has been hurt by the insensitivity shown toward her account of how badly she was treated by the wt.. i realize this is a place where are all welcome, and barring any posting guidelines violations, we are free to air our views without fear of any backlash.. however, please keep in mind that most posters here - yours truly being one of them - view the wt in a negative light.
with all the evidence out there pertaining to its deceitfulness, how can anyone view it otherwise?.
i reached out to you, angel eyes, because i sense that you need a friend.
Mouthy,
I also agree with others here, please don't leave... I've been reading your posts for years and have enjoyed every one of them.
This place wouldn't be the same without you, you have so much wisdom to offer.
I can't post much, since my computer does not get along with this site as it is right now, but I do read and sympathize with all who are hurting.
((((Hugs))))
Cas