I was 'shocked' to discover that 'Worldly' people are not all selfish, immoral, borderline criminals who actively despise JWs (rather than being indifferent towards them).
In comparison, I now find 'Worldly' people better 'adjusted' than JWs.
i, like most born ins grew up being taught that everyone who was not a jw was inherently wicked, that they were dishonest, unloving, selfish, bad parents who don't care about their children, and also sad empty people with no direction in life.. as i grew older i started to see that this wasn't always true with every one, that what i was taught wasn't equating with what i was seeing.. by high school i could see that my friends at school, (yes worldly friends eek!
) we're actually decent people with morals, they may have engaged in a little fornication here and there but not promiscuously, and they were good honest people, with goals and parents that cared for them.. but after high school i was phsycologicaly bullied into ceasing contact with my friends altogether, leaving me with little contact with outside world, and the cult mentality had more room to grow, not fully, but enough to unconsciously not fully trust 'worldly' people.. however, once i'd left the org and began to meet people again, i was amazed at actually how good, honest, loving, kind, and caring many people can be!
who love their spouses and children and try their very best to be good parents and partners.
I was 'shocked' to discover that 'Worldly' people are not all selfish, immoral, borderline criminals who actively despise JWs (rather than being indifferent towards them).
In comparison, I now find 'Worldly' people better 'adjusted' than JWs.
i have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.
i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.
maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.
Absolutely horrid. I am so sorry for your loss
every year they have a few people who come out and suprise me.
rarely seems to happen with the american version.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kdviedf9im&feature=relmfu.
What Cantleave said
It's a 'must watch' on a Saturday night here. And I just love David Walliams!
hey, all who are or did attend the memorial..anything interesting happened?
have you ever heard of anything peculiar happening at the memorial?.
one of my friends gave me an experience where 4 out of the five elders partook of the emblems....daddy elder and his three son!!!
TBH I think the wine was alcohol free.
So basically grape juice...? Then the whole 'ritual' wasn't in keeping with Christ's commandments, lol.
hey, all who are or did attend the memorial..anything interesting happened?
have you ever heard of anything peculiar happening at the memorial?.
one of my friends gave me an experience where 4 out of the five elders partook of the emblems....daddy elder and his three son!!!
me partaking in 2010
...did you polish off the whole glass jookbeard..?
as most of us know the wt society has always claimed that it's dissapproved in god's sight to marry a non-jw .
although they've never made it a disfellowshipping offense, any jw who marries outside the jw organization is looked at as " weak " or lacking " spirituality " and loses certain alleged " privileges " in the congregations.
they use scriptures in the old testament as support for this.
As others have pointed out - CULT. The Church of England doesn't impart all these ridiculous boundries on its members - but then again, it isn't a dangerous organisation which breaks up families. People who go to 'Church' do so because they (mostly) want to, not because they're afraid of the repurcussions.
The danger of a JW marrying a non-believer is that the WT will lose a member due to them having some sense talked into them.
so, this a long story but i'll try to keep it short.
this was about 2years ago,.
my wife brought up the un thing to my parents, much to their horror and despite me advising her not to.
why would they join the un just for a library card?
That's what I always though mP. Surely any information the UN holds (from the Society's perspective) would be propoganda/lies anyway?
It is tomorrow, Thursday.
Thanks Shipper - I only found out yesterday (another non-JW source). I originally thought it was Friday as I believe that's the next full moon.
do i have this right?.
jw are to be completely obedient to the fds.
they are not to question, speak against the teachings of, or disobey the fds.. however, the fds's teachings change and many past teachings are now seen as incorrect.. still, though, jws are to completely and unquestionably obey all teachings of the fds, no matter if they personally believe such are wrong or if they carry severe consequenses.. .
It's exciting being a JW, because you don't know what your beliefs will be from week to week.
it's this week, folks.
i thought i might give you a new thread to vent on.
many on our forum still go to the memorial or have to answer to family about not going.
I've posted on other thread - no invite here. I'm gutted.