my wife suggested this thread and i agree it's a good idea to put this out here to find out.
just wanted to give her credit for the idea.. most of the public have no idea that some of the jehovah's witnesses people calling at their door are a previously convicted sex offender or pedophile who may have served hard time in prison for their crime.
it would be interesting to have an informal survey here and get an idea of the sheer numbers of these child molesters who are out on the loose.. in your opinion - how would the public react if they knew that child molesters were regularly calling on their doors ?
Didn't the WTS institute an official policy of not letting jw abusers go door to door in 2002? If so, it would have bearing on any answers before or after that date.
Wasn't Michael Porter photographed (by the Sun newspaper) out in field service AFTER he was 'convicted' in 2007 ?
i was just thinking of this driving home from work last night.
when i totally believed this to be the "truth" i could not stay awake.
i really tried to but the next thing i knew i was sound asleep.
Don't tell anyone...but during one Assembly I crept out and wandered around the town. 1980s.
in the uk they are registered as a charity.
its made clear from the platform that this is for tax reasons, they get a nice tax break from the goverment.
but what charitable works do they actualy do?.
If so I think all us Brits here should be writing letters stating why JW's do not benefit the public.
I don't know of any example where JWs have benefitted 'Society' or individuals. In addition to flogging WT literature, what else are they renowned for? I'm up for writing to the Charities Commission.
In WT speak, maybe the word 'charity' has a different meaning to the dictionary - you know, just as 'generation' does.
the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.
they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.
" the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.
Some good examples here...just marking so I can learn a few
i was inspired to write this based on a post in another thread.. as a jw you are told to read and let the bible speak to you.. that would mean that you could reach a different conclusion on a certain scripture or account.
but that may not coincide with what the fds has as an explanation or conclusion.
this in turn, according to the standard makes you wrong if you "want" to be humble and wait for "new light.".
As a JW you are told to read and let the Bible speak to you.
I thought studying the Bible alone was now 'discouraged'? Or is that last year's light?
i hear a lot, both on this forum and elsewhere, about all kinds of things jehovah's witnesses believe.
but i've never felt that outsiders were a good source of information about what faithful watchtowers actually believe.
in fact, i've discovered that the worst source of information about a religion is from those who were members but left the faith.
Ugh Chalam/Stephen...you made me click on that...
Actually, Jehovah's Witnesses are interested in you and your welfare
Incorrect. Their only interest is selling WT literature. They are often indifferent to fellow members' welfare.
They want to be your friends and to tell you more about themselves, their beliefs, their organization, and how they feel about people and the world
in which all of us live.
Part of that is true, they want to tell you about the Organisation. Their beliefs change on a regular basis - miss one 'meeting' and you may be 'out of the loop'. They are 'discouraged' from making friends outside of the KH
To accomplish this, they have prepared this brochure for you.
Yep..WT literature, because the Bible is not for 'the likes of you'. Buy our magazines.
In most ways Jehovah's Witnesses are like everyone else.
Only biologically.
They have normal problems—economic, physical, emotional.
Mostly emotional/nerves/depression.
They make mistakes at times, for they are not perfect, inspired, or infallible.
But they will try to cover them up, or they will be shunned and treated as dead by fellow members.
They have made a dedication to God to do his will, and they apply themselves to fulfill this dedication. In all their activities they seek guidance from
God's Word and his holy spirit.
No - a fib. They dedicate themselves to the WT 'leaders'.. Also a fib - they seek guidance from the WT leaders who are the only ones privvy to God's Word. We are not worthy.
i spotted them out in fs on my block as i turned into my driveway, so i waited for them to come around to my side of the street.
they were in a huddle, 2 sisters and 2 brothers- the brothers had a young boy around 6 with them to get sympathy.
i had my 1924 wt book, the way to paradise, in hand and approached them.
Great stuff Sadly their mentality allows them to dismiss anything published before the current WT publications. Just one question - you approached THEM? Do they not call on you..? Reason I ask is that they refuse to call on me anymore, despite me never requesting this. This past Easter weekend, I watched them in my street - they called next door, then walked AROUND my drive to the house other side of me, completely missing me out. This is the second time I've seen them do this. I must be on a 'list' which is attached to the territory map. I wonder why, lol.
my doorbell rang about 30mins ago, standing out side was a 30 somthing man and a very very young boy.
the young boy mumbled and stuttered and limply waved about a awake magazine at me.
i told him i wasn't interested because his religon had a bigger child abuse problem than the cathloic church, the difference is jw's cover it up better.
For what it's worth, I think you did a great job highdose...managing to get a lot across in a short space of time and gave them both something to think about. It's amazing how little these JWs know about their own religion...blinkered, brainwashed zombies.
glutton...fails to show love for jehovah.
is food a big thing in his life?
if in the presence of others, does he selfishly ignore their needs and take more than his fair share?
BluesBrother - I have never heard of anyone being carpeted for it, though
Same here - weird isn't it...the amount of (very overweight) JWs who were permanantly on a 'diet', but couldn't resist cake, even though they tried soooo hard to resist (gluttony being a 'sin'). Yet having one cigarette - smoking not even mentioned in Bible - is a terrible 'actionable' sin. Silly.
I recall one Elder...and don't get me wrong, I don't judge anyone, ever...but he was obese, which is 'fine', but his suits were about two sizes too small so not a pleasant sight. If a 'sister' wore such ill fitting clothes (or indeed a non-elder brother) I'd imagine they'd have been counselled.
i know there are a lot.. one belief i never understood is that blood fractions might be ok for a christian but not "whole blood".
to me the "blood doctrine" is ridiculous from a scriptural point of view..
One new one is "a generation". Now, they are stringing generations end to end like I do with Christmas lights. At least the Christmas lights look pretty.
So funny Wizard ...the WT is not only content with changing the Bible and History to suit its doctrines...but is now changing the dictionary, lol.
