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http://democrats.senate.gov/ss/calc.html
i found that i would lose 4% of my benefits the new proposed way.. blondie
If Congress can have it why can't we. We must be too stupid. I think the government is afraid we might do better with out them. I prefer to make my way thru with the government out of my pocket.
That?s my point. If it?s such a terrible plan, why did Congress, unanimously, pass it for them selves? The truth is being in control of your own money, makes you the worst thing the Government wants, independent. Whether you agree w/ the plan or not, the proposal is VOLUNTARY, it?s your choice.
i was looking through the newest wt just to see what "new light" there is now.
i came across the questions from readers, and i was amazed by what i read.
from the may 15, 2005 wt, the question was "why were david and bath-sheba not put to death for committing adultery, whereas their newborn son died?
This is a perfect example, imo, of how the WTS trains its followers to not accept responsibility for their actions and choices. In fact, it seems clear to me that this account has been used to demonstrate the reason why the leadership of the WTS is unwilling to accept the responsibility and consequences of rules that they shove down the throats of their followers. To their way of thinking, followers are disposable, but "leaders" are not. If you lose a few "followers" for the sake of maintaining power and leadership, it's a price the leaders are willing to pay.
Scully, Interesting point. Leaders are free from taking any responsibility while the R & F are expendable. Pretty funny how this precedent as been around as long as the bible itself. Make's me think of Arron and the "Golden Calf." It was, according to the bible, Arron's lead that made this happen. Thousands were put to death, he was untouched. Funny how things don't seem to change.....
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http://democrats.senate.gov/ss/calc.html
i found that i would lose 4% of my benefits the new proposed way.. blondie
I hope this doesn't end up being a Democrat-bad, Republican=good thread.
Blondie, I hope as well and that is not my intention. Very true many on both sides are against any privatization, for pretty obvious reasons. The current Social Security system is a major source of income for the Government most of which is not used for the intended purpose. If we are in control of our money they are not, simply put. This poses problem for both sides Dem's and Rep's. But the thing is, why are citizens against it? It would be a totally voluntary program, we don?t have to do it if we don?t want. I want the chance to decide for myself.
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http://democrats.senate.gov/ss/calc.html
i found that i would lose 4% of my benefits the new proposed way.. blondie
Blondie, I have spent a long time looking at this. The site you gave, sorry it's a scam. It's run by the Dem.'s in the Senate, no matter what you put in, it will be a loss.
Try this site:
http://www.heritage.org/research/features/socialsecurity/OWCWelcome_new.asp
This site gives information on how the estimate is arrived at. The other site gives "assumptions", simply a scare tactic to fool people and pit them against the plan.
The_class...even that sounds like a good plan. Right now in the US, you fork over tons of money then it is in turn spent and givin' away and you have a "promise" of at least some of it back when you retire.
the mezza family deaths prompts the audit of dss and hopefully change.. x. deaths of three rock hill children prompts audit of dss.
posted: 6:58 am edt april 28, 2005. rock hill, s.c. -- the deaths of three children in rock hill at the hands of at least one of their parents have prompted an audit of the department of social services.
the board that runs the state legislative audit council voted wednesday to review how dss handles child abuse and neglect cases, internal investigations and disciplinary actions.
Here's something that puts in perspective how loving the "Organization" is:
http://www.kentuckylaketimes.com/localnews/sept04/jwmurders/09100406.php
To quote from the article posted above:
A national spokesman for the Jehovah's Witnesses organization said that Meza "confessed" to church officials about sexually abusing his little girl.
According to some of the vigil participants there were no Jehovah's Witnesses present at the memorial service. "It's been very hard for our family to have coped with these deaths. ... I still do not know why their church was not here grieving here with us tonight," said Ariel Zeledon, Marbely Meza's brother.
Pretty telling.........
i had a woman come to my door today that i thought was a jw.
it was wierd she was by herself but i didn't think twice.
she started asking me questions about faith and i asked her if she was affiliated with the jws.
Nice.....I just went and checked thier website...amazingfacts.com
here's what I found...seems to sum everything up:
Pre-Order your copy today! Dynamic life changing 20-part Bible Seminar...
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i shouldnt tell you all this...
you heard it right, folks.
imagine wearing that across your forehead for the rest of your "christian" life.
((((( little t )))))
As with the rest I am left with out by you story and how much you and your children have gone through. Please stay here with us, I hope the we can give you some peace and healing.
i was looking through the newest wt just to see what "new light" there is now.
i came across the questions from readers, and i was amazed by what i read.
from the may 15, 2005 wt, the question was "why were david and bath-sheba not put to death for committing adultery, whereas their newborn son died?
The thing is, stories like this challenge my belief in the bible, if I even still believe at all. It just defies logic and the WT explanations are usually more absurd.
i was looking through the newest wt just to see what "new light" there is now.
i came across the questions from readers, and i was amazed by what i read.
from the may 15, 2005 wt, the question was "why were david and bath-sheba not put to death for committing adultery, whereas their newborn son died?
I was looking through the newest WT just to see what "new light" there is now. I came across the Questions From Readers, and I was amazed by what I read. From the May 15, 2005 WT, the question was "Why were David and Bath-Sheba not put to death for committing adultery, whereas their newborn son died?" Pretty good question, I wondered how they would skate over it. Here's what they had to say, taken from the last paragraph.
"But we must remember that if the case had been handles by human judges, the parents as well as the unborn child in the womb would have lost their lives. The loss of the son might also have helped David to realize more keenly how displeased Jehovah was with his sin with Bath-Sheba. We can be confident that Jehovah dealt with the matter justly, for "perfect is his way.""
I read that and I couldn't believe the reason they gave! The innocent child was killed to teach David a lesson? Does that even start to make sense? What kind of a loving God would kill an innocent child to punish the parents?
How about my most likely scenario, David was King. He made the rules, pretty much no way the High Priest was going to drag him outside and stone him. And the child, I would imagine a pretty bad infant mortality rate for that area and time. Not uncommon for a child, newborn, to pass away. Just thought I'd share the latest WT gem. Enjoy!!
i have been reading over the articles the watchtower has published concerning neo-babylonian history.
the major consistent statement in all of them is that "everyone is wrong!
doubt and uncertainty is thrown upon all historical evidence.
There is so much archeological evidence that did-proves 607. One can only think, how long can they keep it buried? They seem to be doing a good job at. It seems that anything not-607 is very quickly brushed off and deemed "apostate".
