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  Taking Back The Kingdom Halls.

  by RunAsFastAsYouCan in

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  thesis: the kingdom halls as a real estate entity could be couped; coup d'etat.

  a group of 3 elders as trustees could sell the kingdom hall out from under mother watchtower corporation.

  spread the money to the community or non profits, or just give it as a distribution to the congregation who paid for the kingdom hall.

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  The hall I went to growing up was sold due to restructuring of district boundaries or something. The Red Cross moved in and I smile every time I pass it by. At least they do something to actually help people out
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  Millions die in Natural disasters - God is doing nothing. Do I adopt Anthropomorphism to him?

  by KateWild in

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  i do not think god is a'morphic.

  god is not human, so hence he does not possess human characteristics, to know god better and to understand him better i study science.

  there has been a new discovery of strange signals picked up from black holes and distant supernovae suggest there's more to space-time than einstein believed.

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  Ruby456

  I would say that paradox is also inherent to the approach you define - that of breaking things down by reason and this approach also involves quite a lot of imagination.

  To a degree, however imagining something doesn't make it reasonable. In fact, I'd say the two are rather opposed by nature. And as I mentioned, much of our current doctrinal beliefs are due to imagination, not reason. Politics and social pressures only compound the problem of breaking these down IMO.

  Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course and we all see things differently. Which is why there have been/are so many gods in history; people believe in whatever they wish to imagine, whatever they feel. Doesn't make it true though, with respect to the god question. Most of the old gods are passe, which begs the question of the validity of current gods.

  Anthropomorphism of god is more of a philosophical and ontological question and less a political and social one IMO. But again, it really depends on if or how you define god. Some prefer a god with human qualities, naturally.
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  Millions die in Natural disasters - God is doing nothing. Do I adopt Anthropomorphism to him?

  by KateWild in

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  i do not think god is a'morphic.

  god is not human, so hence he does not possess human characteristics, to know god better and to understand him better i study science.

  there has been a new discovery of strange signals picked up from black holes and distant supernovae suggest there's more to space-time than einstein believed.

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  twitch, I keep going back to the thread title too but now I am asking, in view of Adamah's posts denigrating it, is anthropomorphism such a bad thing? And here are my reasons

  Anthropomorphism helps us to see more acutely the depth and profoundness of the world we live in.

  Not sure I agree with that. Projecting human traits on non human things seems a natural function on a base level and may be good for pets but really has no relevance to anything non human IMO. Likely related to the concept of mind we all learn in childhood, the distiguishing of one's individuality as compared to and identified with others.

  I'd say it gives depth and profoundness in understanding each other but human traits only apply to humans IMO

  It is strongly linked to democracy.

  Anthropomorphism is common in many cultures and beliefs but just because the majority believe something doesn't make it right. Consider that at one time, some guy drove a flaming chariot across the sky every day. Everyone agreeing it was true didn't make it so.

  Anthropomorphism also expresses empathetic links to the world in which we live via emotional intelligence (although paradoxically human wisdom can be limiting if taken too seriously).

  On a social macro level, maybe. Not sure I understand the meaning here

  last but not least it stimulates the imagination and enables us to move away from doctrinal beliefs (which paradoxically are man-made - lol)

  Well, certainly it is imaginative and adds some spice to life. However, I don't see how it breaks down doctrines and would say that it's because of anthropomorphism that we have many doctrines and religions. It's fair to say the trend is declining though; the further back in history you go, the more "human" our gods seemed to be.

  I'd say if one wants to break from doctrinal beliefs, one must realize the composite of assertions one has, challenge them and break them down with reason. Personally, I'd rather have evidence and reason as a core for my beliefs with respect to the god question, not imagination. The latter is best used in other pursuits IMO

  Of course, one can choose to believe as they wish; our inherent diversity naturally gives rise to all sorts of beliefs, all of which are man-made. Ultimately, one must define what god is, if anything at all.
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  Millions die in Natural disasters - God is doing nothing. Do I adopt Anthropomorphism to him?

  by KateWild in

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  i do not think god is a'morphic.

  god is not human, so hence he does not possess human characteristics, to know god better and to understand him better i study science.

  there has been a new discovery of strange signals picked up from black holes and distant supernovae suggest there's more to space-time than einstein believed.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVjs4aobqs
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  Millions die in Natural disasters - God is doing nothing. Do I adopt Anthropomorphism to him?

  by KateWild in

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  i do not think god is a'morphic.

  god is not human, so hence he does not possess human characteristics, to know god better and to understand him better i study science.

  there has been a new discovery of strange signals picked up from black holes and distant supernovae suggest there's more to space-time than einstein believed.

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  Hmm, gonna jump in here and read the thread later

  The thread title is leading. Millions die with or without god, fact. God couldn't do anything if he didn't exist. Therefore, the OP title asserts a god that does nothing by choice. The question assumes this plus the idea that such is a human trait.

  I think Spinoza was spot on in such matters

  This assumes he is right, which is a big assumption :)
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  Fallacies about Faith

  by tec in

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  peace to you!.

  this thread is about false things (some) atheists think theists believe.

  this is not a thread about false things that atheists think about theists.

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  :)
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  GODS NAME?

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

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  in my culture using the first name or even last name ( we use mom,dad,sir,ma'am,grandma,grandpa,auntie,uncle) of my parents or an older and respected person in my family or circle of friends it is considered downright disrespectful!!!

  even when it comes to a person who is a doctor in secluar society, out of respect you would say dr. last name, not using the first name.

  not sure of how your culture does things, but if its a friend or an aquatintence of the same age we typicaly can use their first name.

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  What I've found interesting is the lexicon of names for god that have existed, and sometimes the grammar. Of course, each is supposdly the "true" name of god.

  Which begs the question, what if you get the name wrong?
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  Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

  by rawe in

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  has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?

  what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.

  if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.

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  If you haven't joined the LDS or considered it, as an Ex-JW, what is your general view of the LDS faith?

  Never considered it; they seemed to have their own sunday flavour of divine right nutjob beliefs and it wasn't anything I wanted a part of

  I have been in the local "hall" and spoke with the "elders" on business a few times. No breaks and full pop on rates. Creepy dudes.

  It was interesting to walk through their church and observe some of the peoples. Different but all to familiar in a lot of ways.

  No thanks.
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  Goodbye and Thank You Jw Net (Last Post)

  by Brother Mike in

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  i would like to thank everyone for the discussions that we've all had.

  after all of them i have realized, all of you have made me realized that after all of the stuff i have been through, i just need a good friend.

  and regardless of how hostile our discussion could get i have felt that you have all shared something with me that have helped me.

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  Don't forget your fish...
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  Is it just me or has this site become a Believer/Atheist warzone?

  by BU2B in

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  i enjoy the odd thread about evoloution vs creation, etc but lately it seems that a large percentage of threads here devolve into fighting between atheists and theists and distract from what most of us here see eye to eye on, the wt and related things.

  i wish things could be more civil here and fr people to realize that people will never see eye to eye on the topic.

  it gets so tiring to see the contstant bickring and fighting on those threads.. they seem to go on page after page but very little of substance is discussed seeing as the existence or non existence of a god can be proven by anyone.

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  And often enough it is the ones who claim not to want to hear about it who ask the most questions.

  Questions such as "could you lay off the preaching please"?

  lol

  Seems to me if one really wants peace, then one must do their part to keep it.