No, Syd, I never said any of those things. So, don’t put words in my mouth.
I just don’t think it’s doable here..for many reasons.
canada has universal healthcare.
the consensus is that america never will.
can anyone explain why, please?
No, Syd, I never said any of those things. So, don’t put words in my mouth.
I just don’t think it’s doable here..for many reasons.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/05/19/felt-end-review-daniel-cox/.
what it’s like to leave the jehovah’s witnesses.
in ‘i felt the end before it came: memoirs of a queer ex-jehovah’s witness,’ daniel allen cox reflects on losing his faith after spending his early years waiting for armageddon.
BETH SARIM:
Yes, a plan is definitely needed.
A Witness who wants out needs to have contacts and a friend or two outside. If somebody is an adult and has a secular job that helps. The problem is if the person is younger or even a born-in JW adult with a sheltered life with everybody’s eyes on them.
They must find a way to get an outside contact.. I wasn’t raised in the religion and I already had a secular job so it was relatively easy for me.. Once your ducks are in a row you can pick a day to start your ‘Fade’. Then you can experience the wonderful feeling of freedom and lightness of being - breathing in fresh air! I remember it well.
canada has universal healthcare.
the consensus is that america never will.
can anyone explain why, please?
LITTLEROCKGUY:
I’m with you and want to go to the doctor when I want. I can imagine people dying because they can’t get the surgery/treatments they need in time!!
As far as other comments: I remember many years ago I was in an emergency room because I had fallen on my tailbone. I was crying because I was in so much pain. I saw with my own eyes young mothers coming in with babies for regular care! I do understand that emergency room staff have to make a judgment call as to who is worse off. The guy coming in with the heart attack goes first, etc.
I know people talk about Medicare and/or Healthcare for all but I don’t see how it could happen. Never mind the cost. Just who is going to pay for this??? Think about the current economic climate with no jobs. Never mind that the infrastructure isn’t even in place for something of this tremendous magnitude. Plus you need to staff these places. A doctor who paid big bucks to have his practice isn’t going to be forced to work in such a place for peanuts. I know a doctor who retired and moved because he didn’t want to deal with Obamacare.
No, sadly, current Medicare recipients will be lucky to hold onto what they have with their supplement plans with the premiums that keep steadily inching up!
this was posted on exjw reddit, check it out if some of you never have.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/13q6k5l/normal_people_dont_give_a_darn_if_youre_a_witness/ .
i find this to be the case, people in general are so not interested in religion that they really could care less about jws.
LV101:
Thanks. They may have their faults, but at least when I was Catholic, I didn’t get the sense I personally had a ‘bullseye’ target painted on my body like when I was in the JW religion!
There’s a serious difference there - and it’s not because anybody has the so-called ‘Truth’.. They wish. The Witnesses are simply an intrusive cult-like religion with no boundaries.. I learned serious life lessons getting involved with them and am Glad I was able to pull myself out of that trap!
this was posted on exjw reddit, check it out if some of you never have.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/13q6k5l/normal_people_dont_give_a_darn_if_youre_a_witness/ .
i find this to be the case, people in general are so not interested in religion that they really could care less about jws.
XBEHERE:
I had a pre-JW life as a Roman Catholic and knew zero about Jehovah’s Witnesses nor did I care.
When I got enticed into the JW religion years later, I was baffled at how they described themselves.. They imagined they were talked about night and day by so-called ‘worldly’ people.. This simply was not true and I felt they were deeply deluded and legends in their own minds. But, of course, I kept my thoughts to myself.
likely we've all noticed that on the two major jw discussion forums the most active forums are the "singles or dating" forums.. it would appear that there is an increasingly large number of single parents appearing in the congregations these days for whatever reason.. i admire these ones for the effort they put forth to bring their children up taking on the role of both parents.
from many of their comments in the "singles " forums, it appears many find being a single parent an extreme liability in "the truth" as far as finding a mate goes.
i wonder if jw culture has something to do with how these ones are viewed as prospective marriage mates vs. the mentality in the "world".. as far the single people go, there appears to be almost a certain desperation to get married, further scaring off potential mates.
JOURNEYMAN:
I’m not surprised the last comment you quoted by Roamingfeline is still very true in the JW religion: that ‘single parents in the “truth” are very lonely..and never invited..’
These people were on the fringes of the congregation like I was and I would chat with them.. Maybe a single brother who was a parent might be viewed a little more sympathetically - especially if he had something going for him.. But, a single sister (parent or not) had hardly anybody be friendly or sociable.. I doubt if this has changed.
any streamed content from this years regional convention available with any of you guys?
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I just saw a post on the first page of Reddit saying that somebody leaked those two shunning videos to another ex-JW site.
I was thinking that even if the religion were to ever soften or change its stand on shunning - what does that do for people who have been shunned for decades? People are not a light switch that can just be flicked on and off. Damage has been done and people have moved on.. Even if somebody forgave people who shunned them doesn’t mean they are going to have a relationship with them!
wt 2021 october p.20 "in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.
although we respect those who are taking the lead, we accept jesus’ clear teaching: “all of you are brothers.”".
ijbq article 92 point 6: in contrast, true worshippers of jehovah have no clergy.
FISHERMAN:
When I was studying with the JWs, I was assured everybody was ‘equal’. That’s what attracted me. Guess that was another lie too along with the one: ‘we have no clergy class’.🙄
If anybody tries to claim clergy/penitent privilege in a court of law, they are admitting and expecting to be treated like clergy. But, you won’t call a spade a spade and instead offer a lame analogy of employers and employees.
At NO time did I ever see myself as an employee of theirs when I was in the Jehovah’s Witness religion. I saw myself as a guest/sometime volunteer. Some might have seen me as only a seat warmer because I worked full-time at a secular job and didn’t pioneer.🤣 But that’s okay because I’m retired now.. The only accurate thing you pointed out is that JWs (pioneers) don’t get paid.. That’s a shame for people who busted their a$$ for decades in the religion’s ministry when they should have been holding down a decent job.
.....and replaced with voip by 2025. https://www.pmctelecom.co.uk/blog/are-landline-phones-being-phased-out-in-2025/.
just heard this on a radio station's advert..
DIOGENESISTER:
It’s not even so much as a ‘trust’ issue in perception for a small business. Nor do I think you are necessarily ‘old fashioned’ as some might say.
I think there is a reliability and sturdiness to landlines that’s not going to be there with something else. Oh, people will get used to anything if they have to. But, nobody even had to think twice or worry about their landline. People that are much younger don’t realize this. Listen, we have no choice but to deal with the new situation with the new technology.. But, it’s sad to have to say goodbye to landlines.
we seem to have had an influx of religiots - the people who want to tell us all about how we / the wts / whoever are wrong, wrong, wrong about everything and how right they are.
they obviously have special insight, or voices (probably voices, right?
) telling them the real truth.. as proof, there is inevitably a wall of random scripture references and quotes.. sorry, but we're not here for that.
PUNK OF NICE & LV101:
Sorry to hurt any particular poster’s feelings but I agree with you about these overly long posts.. I don’t know how much work went into producing them, but, I also doubt anybody reads them!
Somebody’s overly long ‘cut n paste’ type of post isn’t the same as a person posting a long intro post or personal story.. Those are ‘readable’ if you’re in the mood.. But, those other ones? 🙄 Please..
I have been on the forum for a long time and I have seen posters who have come and gone post these extremely long posts that I doubt anybody attempted to read.