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  Aren't Watchtower literature trolleys and stands illegal?

  by jwfacts in

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  in many places it is illegal to set up a stand and sell things in public without council approval.

  so why is it that jws can set up their trolleys in busy public areas without being asked to move on?

  i saw this article this morning about muslims being asked to stop handing out leaflets in parramatta, because it is illegal.

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  besty

  Morning commuters at my central London rail terminus are subjected to running the gauntlet in the following order:

  1 - Charity collectors - about twice a month there will be a team with buckets for cash donations - always good causes

  2 - Brand marketers releasing a new product will do give-away free samples of brekafast bars etc - popular with most people grabbing freebies

  3 - Free morning newspapers being handed out - ignore

  4 - Authorised homeless man selling Big Issue magazine - ignore

  5 - various unauthorised beggars - ignore

  6 - JW's with cart - ignore

  They are just another annoying obstacle which most people are visually filtering - it might be different at quieter locations - in Central London 99.99% of people stream past them without a glance.
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  Watchtower/Telecom Ownership Agreement!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower-qcstelecom ownership agreement.. .

  re: petition to transfer ownership of qcstelecom, inc., to watchtower bible and tract society.

  http://documents.dps.ny.gov/public/common/viewdoc.aspx?docrefid=%7b57614a3f-7101-408a-8b25-b3499530db5a%7d.

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  besty

  @punkofnice - there is a difference between 'no punches pulled' and asserting baseless nonsense - those type of comments just feed the JW persecution complex and are the opposite of helpful to our position.

  PS - none of my immediate family talk with me either.

  Lets discuss over a beer in London one of these days ;-) PM me if up for that,
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  Watchtower/Telecom Ownership Agreement!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  watchtower-qcstelecom ownership agreement.. .

  re: petition to transfer ownership of qcstelecom, inc., to watchtower bible and tract society.

  http://documents.dps.ny.gov/public/common/viewdoc.aspx?docrefid=%7b57614a3f-7101-408a-8b25-b3499530db5a%7d.

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  besty

  @punkofnice - tasteless comment.
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  Scottish independance in two days what do you think?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.

  if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?

  even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .

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  simon - its perfectly possible to ascertain why people voted the way they did.

  You call a bunch of them afterwards and ask them ;-)

  http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/20/scottish-independence-lord-ashcroft-poll

  http://whatscotlandthinks.org/ is also an excellent resource

  People voted yes because of self-determination, Westminster politics and whats happening with the NHS

  People voted NO because of risk, pensions and the pound.

  Independence is a processs, not a referendum date. It has been successfully underway since 1998. It's surprising people are unable to see the bigger picture.
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  Scottish independance in two days what do you think?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.

  if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?

  even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .

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  besty

  Scotland 'owns' about 85% of UK North Sea oil by geography and yet is allocated only 8% of it on a per capita basis.

  If oil revenue was allocated by geography Scotland would be a slight net contributor to the UK pot.

  https://fullfact.org/scotland/how_much_money_tax_would_scotland_have_spend_uk_scottish_independence-33426

  Of course Londoners also receive +24% subsidy compared to the rest of England, but you don't hear so much about that...
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  Scottish independance in two days what do you think?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.

  if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?

  even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .

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  besty

  interesting article dozy - I'm not in scotland as you know so don't have any idea really what the mood on the street is - I guess YMMV as usual.

  the author does speculate on what would have happened following a YES vote, and for me thats entirely the problem - speculation.

  what we can observe now is how the NO vote will work out.
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  Scottish independance in two days what do you think?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.

  if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?

  even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .

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  besty

  I think Scotland could & should go it alone and 1.6m fellow Scots agreed.

  Having said that I respect the 2m Scots who disagreed and I expect that going forward together we hold the Westminster feet to the fire to deliver in a timely manner on their promises.

  There has been one recurring theme on this thread which needs people to do their own research to form their own view, not that peddled as fact in the MSM - and that is that Scotland is a net recipient of more than its fair share of UK public spending. (and by implication Scottish people should be grateful to the UK (read England) for its largesse which enables them to drink themselves silly whilst eating pies and fighting, all on England's dime).

  Reading material: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnett_formula https://fullfact.org/scotland/how_much_money_tax_would_scotland_have_spend_uk_scottish_independence-33426
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  Scottish independance in two days what do you think?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.

  if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?

  even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .

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  besty

  why didnt us lot south of the wall get to vote on the matter--? or did the powers that be know full well that if we did--the result would be overwheming.

  because you, like me, are not resident in Scotland
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  Scottish independance in two days what do you think?

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one thing i would like to say is will the union jack be changed because the scottish flag is incorpreted in it.

  if the union jack is changed will we change our australian flag because the union jack is in our flag?

  even hawawi has the union jack also fiji and many other commonwealth countries.. .

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  besty

  I would vote Yes if I had a vote - the reasons for the Union of 1707 are no longer valid.

  If the UK goes to war with Argentina to enforce the right to self-determination for Falkland Islanders you must logically offer the Scots the same right.

  The truth is no-one knows how a Yes (or a devo super max+ powered No) will work out in practice. So all the posturing on this thread and in the MSM is meaningless. Chimps have a more accurate grasp of world facts than the media or you do.

  (and if you buy into the Bitcoin/Blockchain theory of everything its all change from a global finance perspective for all of us anyways )

  Good luck Scotland - may you prosper tomorrow and always.

  An absent son,

  xxxxx
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  The insensitivity and opportunistic nature of witness at the 9/11 site !

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i saw an online post with pictures of all the witnessing carts all around the 9/11 site during the anniversary of the tragedy.... im appalled at how opportunistic they are, and how they prey on people in a mourning and vulnerable state!.

  apparantly they boast of: "there are 65 carts, with 200 witnesses manning the area... and so far 15 new studies started!".

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  besty

  are they actually having carts on the memorial site? hopefully they will get booted....