Posts by diamondblue1974

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WT-Says Moms Should not Work

by leaving-jws in

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the feb 1, 2008 wt has an article on p. 28 called finding fulfillment as a mother.

the article basically states that moms should not work outside of the home but stay at home with their kids to teach them things about jehovah.

it also states that moms that want to work outside the home full-time do so not out of economic necessity but to boost their self worth, to obtain financial independence or to pay for luxuries.

diamondblue1974

Whilst having very strong feminist views and being disgusted at the concept of the society being so against women seeking supplemental income, I think there is a bigger picture to consider.

It has been covered a little but to reiterate, it is about keeping not only women small, uneducated, and financially dependent it is also about keeping families in the same position without lifes little luxuries. Its about keeping families in lower income brackets so they have little means to progress and better themselves. Ultimately its about self esteem and ensuring that families, men, women live and children grow up without aspirations that do not involve the WTS.

Even the 'counsel' regarding those that own businesses in the witnesses is transparent. The counsel advocates keeping things small instead of adding and or creating wealth. Counsel condemning women going off to work is not a far cry away from this already even if the article doesnt exist.

When you look at the way the organisation controls families you see it for what it really is.

G

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What's the craziest thing you've lost your privileges over?

by 5thGeneration in

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this question dedicated to watson!

5th... stick to the "losing my priviledges threads.".

love when people can't take a joke unless it's theirs!

diamondblue1974

I was threatened with losing my priviledges for breaking off an engagement that should never have taken place; we were ill matched and only after the engagement did I realise that she was a bit of a nut job. When I sought the advice of an elder I was told that I would lose my priviledges.

In the end we got married and I blame the elder concerned for making those 7 years the worst in my life!

G

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Pink Floyd - Your Favorite Songs by the group?

by Rapunzel in

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any takers?

diamondblue1974

For me 'Wish You Were Here' will always have a place in my heart.

Shine on you crazy Diamond is a very very close second.

G

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Rape is weapon in Kenya

by Rabbit in

when i read stuff like this, the use of rape against women & children, as a weapon...i cannot help, but think of the bible god i used to worship.

i was an apologist.

whenever i read those disturbing bible (holy) passages, in my faithful past, where my god ordered or gave his express permission to rape the 'enemies' babies, young girls and women...i got sick.. look at god's beloved, faithful servant lot.

diamondblue1974

Remember that Lot's daughters had to get him blind drunk to have sex with him. That ought to tell you where Lot really stood on the issue of incest.

He couldnt have been that drunk though could he? Otherwise he wouldnt have been able to stand to attention for that long,

Sick how the so called God of the hebrews condoned this activity really.

G

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Can I forbid my ex to see my son???

by babygirl75 in

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before i start, i know a lot of you will say for me to consult an attorney, but just wanted to see if any of you have had to deal with this..... i have primary custody of my son.

my ex was ordered to pay child support the first of each month.

well i hardly ever see a dime of it unless i call him and have to bitch him out to send the state a payment for child support.

diamondblue1974

I have primary custody of my son. My ex was ordered to pay child support the first of each month. Well I hardly ever see a dime of it unless I call him and have to bitch him out to send the state a payment for child support. Even when he sends a payment it is only one weeks worth. He is already over $8000 behind. I've talked with the child support people, and they tell me as long as he is sending in some kind of payment, they can't really do anything. In the court order he gets to see my son every other weekend. When he has my son, he is always buying him toys and other crap he doesn't need. Anway..Can I not let my son go with him on his weekends until he at least starts paying what he should in child support each month? I know it is a court order he gets him every other weekend, but it is also a court order for him to pay child support!

It makes me sick to see children being used as pawns in what is nothing more than a financial war. You have a very skewed view of the issues at stake it seems. Its not about allowing your ex husband to see his son, its about allowing your son to have contact with his father and you seem intent on punishing your son because of the fathers actions. Have you not even considered this?

It seems from everything you have written that the best interests of your son are not being served by refusing to allow your son to have this contact. A court order allowing him to see his son every other weekend is disgusting and you should be allowing your son more contact with his father than the court has ordered. Blood is thicker than water and always has been no matter what kind of loser the father might be. There is a presumption under UK law and I believe the same applies in the US that contact is always within the best interests of the child even in situations where such contact is supervised.

Even if he isnt the most responsible of fathers how will he learn unless he has the opportunity to? A child needs their father just as much as a mother whatever the fathers faults might be and your comments about him having a new father figure just doesnt cut it. I agree that there might be a great deal to be contributed from your new partner/husband but he should never ever be a seen as a replacement.

Whether you like it or not your new partner will never have the same relationship with your son that his biological father will have given the opportunity. Its about balance and polarity that just doesnt occur with step parents.

Instead of dragging your ex husband over the coals why dont you try sitting him down and talking to him sensibly in a non confrontational manner and ask him to buy him something practical instead of toys if thats what you want. Also too if you are so jaundiced towards your ex husband on a public forum how are you behaving towards him with your son? Is the message you are sending to your son about his dad the correct and reasonable one? You should do all you can to allow your son to have respect for his Dad no matter how little he might deserve it at times.

One point that occured to me is that perhaps your ex husband is trying to compensate for what he perceives as you poisoning his son against him by buying him toys - he wont be the first father to do that and definately will not be the last.

If you persist with this idea you will hurt your son more than you or he will ever know so I suggest you put aside your petty differences and start investigating ways in which this tripartite arrangement is going to work otherwise your son will be the one to get hurt. Your son wants for nothing you say so I dont know what your problem is regarding his father. You have nothing to lose by allowing your son to have contact.

It always baffles me just who are the biggest children in these matrimonial disputes, the children or the parents?

Gary

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Rape is weapon in Kenya

by Rabbit in

when i read stuff like this, the use of rape against women & children, as a weapon...i cannot help, but think of the bible god i used to worship.

i was an apologist.

whenever i read those disturbing bible (holy) passages, in my faithful past, where my god ordered or gave his express permission to rape the 'enemies' babies, young girls and women...i got sick.. look at god's beloved, faithful servant lot.

diamondblue1974

This is nothing new to be honest, rape is always used as a weapon during war, it apparently happened in biblical times as you have already stated and it happens in modern times and perhaps always will. Male domination at its worst I am afraid.

Gary

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Crackdown on "sisters" volunteering at DCs

by dozy in

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the wts has sent a letter to all convention overseers expressing their increasing concern at sisters "directing brothers" at district conventions.. with immediate effect (ie for dc 2008), sisters are no longer to be used as volunteers in parking and security / watchman departments.

any sisters volunteering in other departments (eg toilet cleaning) must be subordinate & follow the direction of appointed brothers.

this move will put a huge burden on the dcs in my area - nearly half the volunteers for parking are sisters and there aren't enough volunteers as it is.

diamondblue1974

I can't believe this brain-dead lawyer even asked this question!

Probably wanted to establish whether or not the twelve year old had committed fornication when she gave the elder the blow job!

Sick bastards!

Gary

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How could an ex-Jw become Catholic

by My Struggle in

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i don't mean this to be offensive to any catholics in any way and believe that they can have true salvation unlike the jw.

also, i know little about the in's and out's of practicing catholicism, as i have never had any interest in being one.

regardless i am always surprised when an ex-jw says that they have found the real truth in catholicism.

diamondblue1974

If I can become a practising Druid, I suppose other XJWs can become catholics!

G

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Crackdown on "sisters" volunteering at DCs

by dozy in

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friends

the wts has sent a letter to all convention overseers expressing their increasing concern at sisters "directing brothers" at district conventions.. with immediate effect (ie for dc 2008), sisters are no longer to be used as volunteers in parking and security / watchman departments.

any sisters volunteering in other departments (eg toilet cleaning) must be subordinate & follow the direction of appointed brothers.

this move will put a huge burden on the dcs in my area - nearly half the volunteers for parking are sisters and there aren't enough volunteers as it is.

diamondblue1974

When will JW women wake up to this blatant discrimination and misogynist organisation; it makes my blood boil and cannot understand why people just accept it. Its obvious that JW women are conditioned into believing that submission, obedience and other similar words which are misused to exercise male domination, are acceptable.

Its no surprise that the feminist movement is the spawn of satan as far as the organisation is concerned - most of the elders would be tarred and feathered by any self respecting woman.

G

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Music for Bad Moods

by metatron in

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i've discovered that, when i am in a bad mood, i don't want to be cheered up as much as agreed with.

in that spirit, i offer the following.

as theme music for various negative states of mind.. hating everybody:.

diamondblue1974

Metallica - St Anger

Its loud, cluttered and is the ultimate in vicarious banging of heads!

G