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jw.org has an Armageddon countdown card on it. seriously.

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"Now, in view of recent labor troubles and threatened anarchy, our readers are writing to know if there may not be a mistake in the 1914 date. They do not see how present conditions can hold out so long under the strain. We see no reason for changing the figures - nor could we change them if we would. They are, we believe, God's dates, not ours. But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble." Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226

"… the battle of the great day of God Almighty … The date of the close of that "battle" is definitely marked in Scripture as October 1914. It is already in progress, its beginning dating from October, 1874." Zion's Watch Tower 1892 Jan 15 p.23

"The seventh trumpet sounds from Aug. 1840, until "the time of trouble," or day of wrath is ended. Hence, it doubtless ends with the times of the Gentiles, and this forty years of conquest; and therefore, sounds until A. D. 1914; at the end of which, Babylon the great, will have fallen, and the "dragon" be bound: that is, the nations will be subdued, and "the prince of this world cast out."" Three Worlds and the Harvest of This World (Barbour & Russell, 1877) p.27

“… the seven times will end in A.D. 1914; when Jerusalem shall be delivered forever, and the Jew say of the Deliverer, “Lo, this is our God, we have waited for Him and He will save us.” When Gentile Governments shall have been dashed to pieces; when God shall have poured out of his fury upon the nation, and they acknowledge him, King of Kings and Lord of Lords.” Bible Examiner C. T. Russell Oct 1876

MORE ABOUT 1914 PROPHECY

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jw.org has an Armageddon countdown card on it. seriously.

by rebel8 in

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Perhaps my thread title didn't convey this pretty significant find, so I'm reposting with this title. This is for real--it's right on their site.

Original thread

Article on jw.org about 1914 being 100 yrs ago, contains the card

Why is this significant? That's for you to form an opinion on, of course. Mine:

This material has generally not been seen before. I found less than a handful of sites that had this posted within the last few months, seemingly without much hubub, which surprises me. (Most of those sites were ebay offerings of reproductions.)
It clearly states a specific date of The End, and we know what the Bible says about people who claim to know a specific date.
wts, and jws, have almost always revised wts history to say it never said a specific date, or even that the end would be coming in 1914.
It's a freaking Armageddon countdown card, in print at the time, and on their website now.
See #4!

I think this is significant and hope you will all spread this around the Interwebs.

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JW.org: " One Hundred Years Ago1914"

by rebel8 in

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http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2014-yearbook/one-hundred-years-ago-1914/.

all links and content are posted here for critical review in compliance with copyright laws.

the be thou faithful unto death countdown card was used by some in their resolve to remain faithful to the end.

rebel8

Basically a santized article talking about how great they were back then, that zinger of a death countdown card, with the disclaimer that "some" did this.

Interestingly, they state this. Not sure I've seen this in print ever?

On the morning of October 2, 1914, Brother Russell entered the Bethel dining room and announced to the Bethel family: “The Gentile Times have ended; their kings have had their day.”

So we all know this was part of a larger quote whereby he gives a pep talk to a very disappointed group who thought they'd be in Heaven by yesterday.

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Nimrod: Fact or fiction

by dugout in

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nimrod and the tower of babel-is this history or biblical myth.

god confused their lauguges?.

sounds quite comical when you think about it.

rebel8

he did not want them to conquer the atom until the earth was populated

What does that mean? Wait until there's more people to annihilate with a bomb? Until then, remain a prescientific, ignorant race.

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JW.org: " One Hundred Years Ago1914"

by rebel8 in

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http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2014-yearbook/one-hundred-years-ago-1914/.

all links and content are posted here for critical review in compliance with copyright laws.

the be thou faithful unto death countdown card was used by some in their resolve to remain faithful to the end.

rebel8

I wonder who published the countdown card?

Yeah you're right NY44M. It is quite shocking they'd show this, but I wouldn't be surprised if some r&f member made these up and this is the Borganization's way of blaming them for being too eager.

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JW.org: " One Hundred Years Ago1914"

by rebel8 in

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http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2014-yearbook/one-hundred-years-ago-1914/.

all links and content are posted here for critical review in compliance with copyright laws.

the be thou faithful unto death countdown card was used by some in their resolve to remain faithful to the end.

rebel8

Thanks for posting the image of the countdown card. I embedded the image but now it's gone!

I googled “Be Thou Faithful Unto Death” countdown card and found out that it's been on the Internet for a few months. So my guess is, as another poster mentioned, the wts is trying to take the wind out of the sails before it goes viral.

omg...what about all those dubs who claim there was no false prophecy back then? This is huge.

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JW.org: " One Hundred Years Ago1914"

by rebel8 in

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http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2014-yearbook/one-hundred-years-ago-1914/.

all links and content are posted here for critical review in compliance with copyright laws.

the be thou faithful unto death countdown card was used by some in their resolve to remain faithful to the end.

rebel8

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2014-yearbook/one-hundred-years-ago-1914/

All links and content are posted here for critical review in compliance with copyright laws. :)

The “Be Thou Faithful Unto Death” countdown card was used by some in their resolve to remain faithful to the end

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Not on JW.Org: Will Armagedon arrive for Jehovah's witnesses before 12:00 Pm EST 10/2/2014 ??

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well it will be 100 yrs for jehovah's witnesses on 10/2/2014 12pm est.

will armagedon happen?

100yrs is a very long generation, two or three.

rebel8

Except omg it IS on jw.org.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2014-yearbook/one-hundred-years-ago-1914/

omg it has a pic of an armageddon countdown card. I'm starting another thread if it's not being discussed.

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Not on JW.Org: Will Armagedon arrive for Jehovah's witnesses before 12:00 Pm EST 10/2/2014 ??

by Balaamsass2 in

well it will be 100 yrs for jehovah's witnesses on 10/2/2014 12pm est.

will armagedon happen?

100yrs is a very long generation, two or three.

rebel8

Why est?

Jehovah likes the Eastern Standard time zone best. Also whites, Americans, and men. That is who founded and run his super special organization, so he likes them best.

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JW's and depression

by FeelingFree in

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i was wondering how many of you suffered badly with depression when you were in "the truth" and if you feel your depression was related to being part of the organisation?

are you better now you have left or still have issue's?

whatever your experience's i would be very intrested to know (if you feel you can talk about it.).

rebel8

Yes and no. I struggled with a lot of emotions and difficulties in understanding how life works, thanks to the cult brainwashing and lifestyle. To say it was hard seems to vastly understate it.

I wouldn't say I was clinically depressed. What helped is getting out. The sadness lifted immediately and vanished after a year or so.