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  Did Polonius kill his wife? A problem with apolegetics

  by bohm in

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  a basic problem with christian apologetics when applied to the bible is that it relies on the tacit assumption you can draw reliable conclusions on the material.

  the most common form of apologetics start out by certain claims (the tomb was found empty, the disciples had post-crusifiction experiences of jesus that transformed their lives, etc.

  this is hearsay since the person who made the statement cannot be sworn in.

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  I have a few questions to ask the posters on this thread who don't agree with or understand my views regarding Jesus. 

  
  

  1. Do any of the posters on this thread believe Jesus is real and is not frozen in history, distant from our circumstances and remote from our life experiences?

  If you don't believe Jesus is real and is not frozen in history, distant from our circumstances and remote from our life experiences do you think that I, or any other person can convince you otherwise?

  
  

  2. Do any of the posters on this thread believe Jesus is present, active, involved and engaged in our time and place and is still speaking and acting to make Himself known and to change the world?

  If you don't believe Jesus is  present, active, involved and engaged in our time and place and is still speaking and acting to make Himself known and to change the world do you think that I, or any other person can convince you otherwise?
  

   
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  Did Polonius kill his wife? A problem with apolegetics

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a basic problem with christian apologetics when applied to the bible is that it relies on the tacit assumption you can draw reliable conclusions on the material.

  the most common form of apologetics start out by certain claims (the tomb was found empty, the disciples had post-crusifiction experiences of jesus that transformed their lives, etc.

  this is hearsay since the person who made the statement cannot be sworn in.

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  Why would anyone care to dissect the events surrounding Jesus' resurrection in order to know the truth about it?

  
  

  A person either believes it took place or they don't.

  
  

  sir82 sez:
  What an odd statement.
  Would you apply that same standard, "even you believe it happened or you don't", to any other important circumstance? A criminal investigation, a spouse's claim of infidelity, a legal document, anything?

  
  

  I am not into speculating, arguing or debating about an event that has been submerged in controversy for almost 2,000 years for several reasons.

  1. No one alive today was there to either confirm or debunk the event.

  2. What is the point in speculating, arguing or debating the event when most people have already made up their minds if it took place or not.

  3. I have a lot better things to do with my time than to try to enforce my personal opinions and beliefs regarding the subject on people who should be intelligent enough to determine for themselves that the event took place or it didn't.

  
  

  Have a nice day.

  
  

  P.S.

  FYI, I won a very important civil court case on December 4 during which the defendant, who lives in another state vehemently denied to the court any knowledge of. The defendant was convicted on 4 of 5 counts and the only reason he wasn't convicted on the 5th count is because the plaintiff agreed with the defendant's testimony regarding that alleged violation of civil law. 

  On a side note, if I had remained in the Jehovah's Witness cult I would have never been able to receive an education which would have afforded the lifestyle and financial benefits I enjoy since leaving it unless my name was Carol Wah or Phil Brumley.

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Dawn Bible Students TV Commercial

  by minimus in

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  have you seen it?

  i saw two of them last night.

  they seem very similar to the watchtower society.

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  minimus
  They seem very similar to the Watchtower Society. Hmmm,

  
  

  Fruit doesn't roll too far from the tree.
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  E-mail address of WT usa

  by paradisebeauty in

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  anyone knows the email address of wt usa?

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  The Watchtower's address and phone number are listed on their jw.org website but the email address is not.

  
  

  I used to have a list of the email addresses for several of the higher ranking bethelites but have misplaced it, not that I would have any reason to email any of those frauds at this stage of my life.
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  Did Polonius kill his wife? A problem with apolegetics

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a basic problem with christian apologetics when applied to the bible is that it relies on the tacit assumption you can draw reliable conclusions on the material.

  the most common form of apologetics start out by certain claims (the tomb was found empty, the disciples had post-crusifiction experiences of jesus that transformed their lives, etc.

  this is hearsay since the person who made the statement cannot be sworn in.

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  Why would anyone care to dissect the events surrounding Jesus' resurrection in order to know the truth about it?

  
  

  A person either believes it took place or they don't.

  
  

  In my opinion (yeah, I have one of those too. I'm sitting on it) each person has the privilege of believing it or not and no one will be able to change their minds no matter what 'evidence' or suppositions they provide.

  I can't understand why anyone would want to or even attempt to try to change a person's believe about Jesus' resurrection because I believe it is a very private matter between the person and the creator, if there really is one.

  
  

  
  
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  Brooklyn Update – January 10, 2015

  by Sour Grapes in

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  email sent to me from a friend in new york city..

  brooklyn update january 10, 2015.

  we have spent the last few weeks in training at the montgomery facility (near walkill) there are 6 couples that were trained to go on the road as ldc field representatives of the branch.

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  First if all, what is LDC? You need to remember that many of us have been out for years and when a poster talks in initials so to speak, it confuses us if not pissing us off. So please.......spell this stuff out. 
  thank you,
  HappyDad

  Just a guess:

  LDC = Low Down Crooks
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  AM3 about glasses

  by Gorbatchov in

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  antony morris iii told the audience of a meeting last week that's the society's stance about wearing glasses has changed.

  from now on the gb does not approve wearing glasses because it gives others the wrong idea of being educated.

  parents have to ignore their children's wish of learning to read.

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  Gorbatchov,

  
  

  AM3 is dumber than a box of rocks but there is no way the fruitcake said that, is there?
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  inheritance

  by truthseeker100 in

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  i have a good life and i am now worth around 3 million us.

  my two children have their university degrees and a promising future.

  what should i do with my money?

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  Why are you asking us?

  We grew up in da troof and didn't manage our own money well so what makes you think we can succesfully help you manage yours?

  
  

  Oh, never mind. I am just daydreaming.

  
  

  Send me a PM.

  I'll be happy to spend manage your money for you. 
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  1st POST: A romance with a JW

  by myangelface in

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  i am not a jw ...however i began having bible studies (i d call them watchtower studies).

  i was beginning to get lured in and brainwashed into accepting the religion as the true religion...but something inside of me told me there was something odd.

  some time passes and i was invited to a meeting and i accepted.

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  Run as fast as you can. He is a loser and will always be a loser.

  Find a normal person who hasn't been screwed up by a religious cult.

  I married a Jehovah's Witness. It was the worst 10 years I have ever been through.

  
  

  
  
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  How Bibles And Bible Based Publications Are Created

  by Bangalore in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  found this article giving an inside look at how wt produces its materials.. http://angelladywriter.hubpages.com/video/how-bibles-and-bible-based-publications-are-printed.

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  bangalore.

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  These tours should be considered by individuals who may genuinely want to see, how Bibles and Bible based publications are created. It truly gives each person that visits the facilities a unique source of appreciation for their Heavenly Father and how he continues to communicate, with his people in these critical times we are living in.

  
  

  What a crock of shit.