blondie & all,
so sorry, just can't resist: http://www.utexas.edu/courses/romanciv/Romancivimages13/laocoon.jpg
pepheuga
are all jw illustrations done by the same person?
i have always been somewhat surprised at the quality of them - i have seen children's books with more compelling and moving pictures (the enormous turnip brings tears to my eyes) - i know i'm being critical but its almost bedtime and i can't help it hehe.
blondie & all,
so sorry, just can't resist: http://www.utexas.edu/courses/romanciv/Romancivimages13/laocoon.jpg
pepheuga
my own parents were caught in an unhappy socio-political climate in mid 70s britain and felt that all of man's best efforts to improve things were dooooomed. this worldview is the more pressing if you've got kids whose future is a consuming worry. chuck in some personal history problems, and they soon became so desperate that they simply opted out of the real world. i mention this because it seems to me (though it may not to others) to be similar to what Craig describes.
pepheuga
i have a 25y/o coworker who seems to fit the typical mold of a jw:
born in 25 years ago.
father is an elder.
invite the person to read this book - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0415267633/qid=1108963046/sr=1-14/ref=sr_1_2_14/202-9906772-1006262 - or a thousand others like it. it says nothing about jehovah's witnesses, but it makes readers think hard, in ways that the watchtower never will. after reading such a book, the dubs' "literature" may strike your friend as being a trifle naive.
pepheuga
the wife of one of our lawyers is a judge here in dallas, and i overheard her husband telling a couple of other lawyers about this really tough case she has right now: deciding to issue a court order to give blood to premature twins whose parents are witnesses.
i popped in with "i'm an ex-jw -- ask me anything" so he and i started talking about the blood issue.
the father of the twins was in tears in the courtroom -- not because of his babies getting blood but because he was afraid he would be accused of giving his consent to the blood transfusion.
: I'm sorry -- that statement was a broad generalization...but I was kind of mad
Nina - ah yes, the "sooooo angry" frame of mind. been there myself. recently! *shame*. all is forgiven Nina, wish i'd never brought it up now.
pepheuga
are all jw illustrations done by the same person?
i have always been somewhat surprised at the quality of them - i have seen children's books with more compelling and moving pictures (the enormous turnip brings tears to my eyes) - i know i'm being critical but its almost bedtime and i can't help it hehe.
: wow that was quite a story - half of me want sto believe it and the other half of me hopes that this isn't a real reflection of life at Bethel.
Qcmbr, it so is, it hurts.
pepheuga
the wife of one of our lawyers is a judge here in dallas, and i overheard her husband telling a couple of other lawyers about this really tough case she has right now: deciding to issue a court order to give blood to premature twins whose parents are witnesses.
i popped in with "i'm an ex-jw -- ask me anything" so he and i started talking about the blood issue.
the father of the twins was in tears in the courtroom -- not because of his babies getting blood but because he was afraid he would be accused of giving his consent to the blood transfusion.
: all uneducated window-washers and janitors
whoops, i'll go crawl back under my shell then.....
pepheuga
one of the latest announcement letters from the wts is that people should attend special.
classes setup for the purpose of preaching to foreign language communities.
these special classes are.
i wonder if this is a tacit admission that the only viable market for their product is the "developing" world.
pepheuga
in thinking about the change to awake - it seems a new masthead would be in order.
i suggest;since 1980 we have been using this magazine and other printed propoganda in an all out effort to win the 'apostate wars'.
in addition, beginning shortly before we applied to the united nations for a library card, we began to publish very favorable political articles about that organization in order to curry favor, and to recieve the best possible seat upon the back of that horrific beastlike organization.
lamentably, there was "awake" to compliment the watchtower.
soon, hopefully, there will be a wake for the watchtower.
pepheuga
ps. it's interesting to note the etymological link between "wake" & "watch", for what it reveals about jehovah's witnesses' mentality.
i have read that thousands of babylonian business records exist on clay tablets, and that these alone provide proof that the year 607bce is not what the watchtower claims it is.. since business is conducted on a day to day basis, these records should provide a continuous record of each babylonian kings reign.
is there a summary of the babylonian business records?
in particular, a timeline showing the number of business tables in existence corresponding to various kings and dates within a king/s reign?.
"Soteriology is in the province of Jehovah ....."
point 1. '....is jehovah's province.....' is what you mean, the "in" is redundant.
point 2. the use of the suffix "-ology" is well judged if you happen to hold that the almighty consults the writings of men in order to find out what his own doctrine is.
point 3. (and far more important than the above) stop using stupid-arsed words like "soteriology"!
pepheuga
that scan of the march 2005 issue of our kingdom ministry that someone supplied said the following:
"hence, from january 2006, awake!
will ... highlight more prominently the bible's explanation of current events.
schizm, are you serious? you would be a dub again? don't do it!
pepheuga