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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  slimboyfat

  You’re actually making me feel a bit sorry for him. Didn’t expect that. lol 😂
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  Zechariah 12:10 Corruption in the NWT

  by Sea Breeze in

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  here's a question for those who still support watchtower on this forum.

  why did watchtower leave out the word "me" in zech.

  zechariah 12:10 reads like this: .

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  slimboyfat

  14,000 words in a couple of hours. That’s a Masters thesis in a lunch break lol 😂 Yeah that’s about as legit as your dodgy claims about Zechariah 12:10. 🙄
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  Applying the facial hair change in New Order portrayals

  by careful in

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  i have a hard time watching the org's vids and reading the publications.

  however, that's not the case with others here.

  hence this post.

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  slimboyfat

  Remember the pirate who was forced to shave his beard? Maybe he’ll be allowed to grow it again! 😁
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  Zechariah 12:10 Corruption in the NWT

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here's a question for those who still support watchtower on this forum.

  why did watchtower leave out the word "me" in zech.

  zechariah 12:10 reads like this: .

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  slimboyfat

  It's just a "but he farted too" kind of argument.

  Most of your posts come across as pretentious farts to be honest.

  there’s no rule that says if someone else translated it a certain way, that automatically makes it legitimate.

  Not just someone else, but all modern Catholic versions translate it similarly to the NWT. (Plenty of non-Catholic versions too, of course) Are you claiming that all modern Catholic versions somehow agree with the NWT in offering a translation of Zechariah 12:10 that is not legitimate?

  You talk as if all the scholars that translate similar to the NWT are somehow ignorant of the reasons you give for your rendering, but their comments and explanations demonstrate that they are fully aware of the type of arguments you make, they just disagree with them. They find the contextual considerations, variants, LXX reading, John’s quotation, plausible emendation compelling reasons for the renderings they give.
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  Zechariah 12:10 Corruption in the NWT

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here's a question for those who still support watchtower on this forum.

  why did watchtower leave out the word "me" in zech.

  zechariah 12:10 reads like this: .

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  slimboyfat

  The fact that Catholic versions agree with the NWT on the translation of Zechariah 12:10 is entirely relevant to your false claim that the NWT has purposely not translated the verse correctly.

  To any reasonable person the fact that Catholic versions agree with the NWT on the translation Zechariah 12:10 is compelling evidence that it is a legitimate translation.

  According to you the LXX translators, the author of the gospel of John, and modern Catholic versions that render the verse similar to the NWT are all wrong and you alone are right.
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  Zechariah 12:10 Corruption in the NWT

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here's a question for those who still support watchtower on this forum.

  why did watchtower leave out the word "me" in zech.

  zechariah 12:10 reads like this: .

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  slimboyfat

  You claimed Alter translated the phrase as “the one”. He simply doesn’t. It’s wrong. And when I pointed out your mistake, you changed the subject.

  You claimed that the NWT didn’t translate the phrase as “to me” because of bias. But there are tons of versions that do the same as the NWT, many of them listed in careful’s post above.

  You’re a Catholic are you not? Practically every modern Catholic version I can find agrees with the NWT on this point: The New American Bible, The Jerusalem Bible, The New Jerusalem Bible, The Revised New Jerusalem Bible, The Christian Community Bible, The New Christian Community Bible, The Revised Standard Version, The New Revised Standard Version. All versions that are approved by the Catholic Church and they all agree with the NWT on this verse. In fact are there any recent Catholic versions that don’t agree with the NWT?

  So what on earth are you talking about?
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  Zechariah 12:10 Corruption in the NWT

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here's a question for those who still support watchtower on this forum.

  why did watchtower leave out the word "me" in zech.

  zechariah 12:10 reads like this: .

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  slimboyfat

  so Alter levels it to “the one.”

  No he doesn’t. That’s not how he translates it. Once again you’re relying on AI to provide a sophisticated looking answer, with all the flowery language, but as usual the actual details are simply wrong.
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  slimboyfat

  Can’t somebody out there go and befriend him and find out his story? I don’t know what happened but I feel sorry for him, especially if he’s estranged from his wife and family too. He always wore his heart on his sleeve and his flaws seemed relatable. His hardliner attitude appeared to be an expression of inner demons rather than malice as it seems with some others.
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  1/2 of the Jehovah’s witnesses have gone

  by hoser in

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  there are 1/2 of the jehovah’s witnesses that there were 30 years ago in my area.

  some have left but i think that many have died and none of their kids stayed being jehovah’s witnesses.

  7 congregations have been dissolved over the years.

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  slimboyfat

  And a personal rediscovery of biblical truth.

  No biased perspective there, then. 🤨

  I can’t stand these AI generated videos. Maybe someday they’ll get better, but as it is I find them unwatchable.
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  Zechariah 12:10 Corruption in the NWT

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here's a question for those who still support watchtower on this forum.

  why did watchtower leave out the word "me" in zech.

  zechariah 12:10 reads like this: .

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  slimboyfat

  So why did Robert Alter translate the verse similarly to the NWT, a non religious Jew who is also an expert scholar of Hebrew and Hebrew literature?

  Even if you translate it as “me”, it’s perfectly obvious that such a statement can make good sense if it’s talking about a parent being pained by the suffering of their child. This reading is eminently compatible with a non-Trinitarian reading of the text too.

  What is nowhere in the text is this magical idea that if it says “me” instead of “him” then wham bam, you automatically have a 4th century Trinity on your hands! This is so farfetched and detached from what the text actually says it’s laughable.