Yes I think expectation around the 1914 generation reached fever pitch in the 1980s, but that’s largely forgotten nowadays. Well over half the current JWs were baptised after the old generation teaching was dropped in 1995. As 1914 recedes into the distant past it could remain as technical teaching, and chronological curiosity, much as 1844 is for Seventh-day Adventists.
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Myth of 1914
by peacefulpete inthe wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
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Myth of 1914
by peacefulpete inthe wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.
millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.
take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.
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Is time really running out? As long as SDAs can keep the 1844 date, and investigative judgement, why can’t JWs keep 1914?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Mike, you are barking mad, sincerely. (In reference to the video, not the above message, which was perfectly sensible.)
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Yes probably embarrassment has something to do with him cancelling Zoom calls. It’s reasonable to assume that high level donors have dropped off faster, so perhaps zoom calls that had ten or so people showing up in the past, now only have one or two. So he would be staring at one or two people trying to put a brave face on it.
Despite his promotion of his new tiers, I see his patron number has gone up by only 4. That’s an even smaller bounce than he got last month. It looks like the patrons numbers are declining at an accelerating rate. I guess that makes sense because it must feel psychologically different to stand with someone who has kept over half his support, compared with being down to a third, a quarter, or less, and so on.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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On the jealousy issue: would I like 400 people sending me money every month for very little work, or for just spouting opinions on a topic I know about? Sure, I would! But would I have the brass neck to actually tell people send me their money and keep up this facade? I don’t think I could do it. The inner cringe would be too much to bear, especially if I had to look the people in the eye over video calls. I don’t know if LE experiences no cringe about the whole thing or he just feels he has no other options.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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There is no way any of this nonsense would actually reach the inside any real court in real life, is there? Surely to goodness not.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Forget “sorry”, do these people get a refund from LE? For all his missed Zoom calls.
Then again, most sane people would pay money to avoid a Zoom call with this charlatan.
He needs people to send him more money because of his “production values”? Who is he kidding? He’s just bleeding people for as long as he can get away with it. Is there any former insider can tell us how these so-called top tier Zoom calls go? Is it just him telling everyone how great he is? Does anyone else get a look in? I’d be embarrassed to be a member of that group. -
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Pioneer hour requirement returns
by FFGhost inso, just posted on jw.borg:.
as of march 2023, the hour requirement for pioneers, which was suspended during the pandemic, will once again be enforced.. elders will review the activity of all pioneers in june 2023. if it appears that any do not have a “practical schedule” (aren’t getting at least close to 70 hours per month”), elders are to “kindly and frankly discuss their circumstances”.. what’s that sound that seems like a torpedo plane diving on its target?
that’s the sound of the number of regular pioneers in complete free fall .
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Pioneer is such an empty title these days. You don’t get special prices on the magazines and you don’t get the special food tickets for the convention. The only time it really becomes an issue is when elders decide to “take away the privilege”, sometimes for petty reasons, leaving fragile egos bruised and feelings hurt. What is the point of being a pioneer nowadays?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Although he has lost a lot of patrons his decline began from a very high base. He’s got more patrons than some famous YouTubers such as Cosmic Skeptic. I think he benefitted from targeting a niche where people are strongly invested in the subject emotionally. He also gained a lot of patrons during the pandemic probably in part due to his non stop livestreams that became regular viewing for isolated/lonely exJWs.
I wonder how many patrons would keep sending him money each month even if he stopped making videos altogether. Maybe he is wondering the same thing! If he’s lucky he might keep around 100 hardcore patrons while doing absolutely nothing. Perhaps some of them are too rich to notice the money going out, or they have lost their marbles, have been institutionalised - but I’m struggling to come up with excuses why anyone would remain a patron.
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Door to door preaching back?
by usualusername1 ina friend told me that this week a jw knocked on her door.
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is house to house back now?.
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Yes