i use this extensively rather than re-inventing the wheel.. paul grundy, the admin, keeps it up-to-date and welcomes any corrections or new information, especially in a well-written article, supported by wt publication quotes.. the 2 places i check first is www.jwfacts.com and then searching on jwn with key word(s) to see if the topic has been already extensively researched or commented on.. don't be frightened away by the material being more than 3 paragraphs.
the quotes from wt publications is are extensive and from publications that are older and less available.
i find it good to read many posts on a single topic and expand my knowledge and sources.. blondie.
Although there are many reasons to be DFed, probably 90% plus of cases are forniaction, with apostasy making up most of the rest.
Does anyone know more unusual cases?
I know of one person DFed for smoking, one for drunkenness, one for heroin use, one for practising Feng Shui!
Does anyone know anyone DFed for “extorting” a high bride price!? Or other unusual rule.
many of us who are old timers in "truth", will clearly remember how we and the organization gloated when christendom began selling off their churches, as we saw many ending up becoming cafe's and art galleries.
i personally remember being told (both in general conversation and in print) that the fall of their congregant numbers meant that most churches were ultimately attended by the elderly and it was clearly linked to the "drying up of her waters" in reference to the fall of babylon and babylon the great..
how ironic, that this very situation has now befallen the society and our local kingdom halls..
Very interesting post, joe134cd 👍
i use this extensively rather than re-inventing the wheel.. paul grundy, the admin, keeps it up-to-date and welcomes any corrections or new information, especially in a well-written article, supported by wt publication quotes.. the 2 places i check first is www.jwfacts.com and then searching on jwn with key word(s) to see if the topic has been already extensively researched or commented on.. don't be frightened away by the material being more than 3 paragraphs.
the quotes from wt publications is are extensive and from publications that are older and less available.
i find it good to read many posts on a single topic and expand my knowledge and sources.. blondie.
Jwfacts is a good site for information.
I can remember when I first began to doubt Watchtower, I read absolutely everything I could find on Watchtower history. Whole websites, every single page. In particular: Watchtower Observer, Freeminds, Reachout, Carm, Watchtower Information Service, and many others.
Jwfacts was a bit too late for me, and I’ve only read bits of it. It if existed ten years earlier I am sure I would have read the whole website in a couple of days. But then, my attention span isn’t what it used to be.
many of us who are old timers in "truth", will clearly remember how we and the organization gloated when christendom began selling off their churches, as we saw many ending up becoming cafe's and art galleries.
i personally remember being told (both in general conversation and in print) that the fall of their congregant numbers meant that most churches were ultimately attended by the elderly and it was clearly linked to the "drying up of her waters" in reference to the fall of babylon and babylon the great..
how ironic, that this very situation has now befallen the society and our local kingdom halls..
Yes I find myself thinking similar thoughts. The growth of JWs during the 20th century was pretty impressive, despite those who like to downplay it, yet the communities they have established are ultimately pretty weak and prone to decline just as fast, or faster than they appeared.
I compare it to the decline of the Church of Scotland which has been on a downward trend for over half a century. Some have predicted it will close before 2040. Yet in some ways it displays more resilience than JWs. Ten years ago I would never have expected that the Church of Scotland Yearbook would outlast the JW Yearbook, and yet here in 2019 the JW Yearbook is discontinued, and the CofS red Yearbooks are still going strong.
heard this today in the car and thought i would share it.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b07x6mf3.
Heard it before, it’s a repeat, but very good. Especially thr dismantling of “new light” - spot on.
so the borg has put up the attendance and baptism figured from the miami and atlanta international conventions.. amazing growth!.
atlanta - 46,374 peak attendance / baptized 314.
0.67% growth.
The “growth” percentage presented appears to be baptisms exprsssed as a percentage of those in attendance at the convention, which is a peculiar way to calculate “growth” to say the least.
Since when was attendance at a convention the measure of JW membership?
What about people who died or became inactive?
Why are only baptisms from the summer convention counted and not the two assemblies?
Not to mention unbaptised publishers, and other issues.
I don’t think this “growth” figure tells us anything much at all. A comparison with last years’ attendance and baptism figures at those conventions would be useful information.
just wanted to let everyone know that ex-jw amber scorch is on the daily show on comedy central tonight.
it should very good.
Not available for my country.
just wanted to let everyone know that ex-jw amber scorch is on the daily show on comedy central tonight.
it should very good.
Is a clip available?
another generation of children being fed the same lie we, our parents and grandparents were told.
this is the link, it's image number 8. https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/united-states/2019-love-never-fails-international-convention-series-overview/.
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i was recently talking with a zealous 'sister' who for years was assigned to use a certain chemical while taking care of wt property, only to have it irreparably damage her immune system partly because she wasn't trained properly.
she said there was a potential lawsuit but she didn't want to bring reproach on jehovah's organization.
has anybody else heard of similar situations, of people being hurt or injured in service to the org, maybe even because of them, and taking the loss so the org wouldn't look bad?.
Yes I heard, only in rough outline, that a brother died during Watchtower construction work in Germany due to negligence. The JW family were under a lot of pressure from the congregation not to seek financial compensation from Watchtower. I think they reached an agreement to give the family a modest amount of money for their hardship in order to avoid a court case, but it was generally considered that they would have had a substantial claim if they pursued it.
