Well it’s come to something when April fools announcements make more sense than real Faithful Slave announcements,
If they were going to drop 1914 then they’d probably go about it somewhat like this.
we all know the society would love to get rid of all the problems caused by clinging to 1914 and all they claimed it meant for the last 100+ years.. it looks like they are laying the groundwork for easing away from the whole concept of 1914. this would also let them do away with the ridiculous "overlapping generation" bullcrap.
what a diaper load that has been.... anyway, the following is from their super secret marching orders for april, 2019. draw your own conclusions.... "3.
“100 years of faithfulness”: the coordinator of the body of elders, or another elder, should be invited to read the following special announcement.
Well it’s come to something when April fools announcements make more sense than real Faithful Slave announcements,
If they were going to drop 1914 then they’d probably go about it somewhat like this.
a study of religious retention rates–that is, what percentage of people raised in a particular church or religion stay with it when they are grown–is quite interesting.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/2012/07/religious-retention-rates/.
jdubs have alittle over 36%.
Probably true that JW retention is comparatively low, but as is often pointed out it’s a shame Pew sample for JWs is quite low (less than 200 I think) to be sure about the exact percentages.
what's up with this?
it seems that with the january study magazine it's been trimmed by by four pages.
have any of you commented on this?.
Just when you think cutbacks have reached their limit, they keep cutting back.
Hang on, it seems they’ve moved the contents page to the back of the magazine, that’s all. Still 32 pages. Or what do you mean?
watctower has posted a $40,000,000 bond following montana's upholding of the nunez v watchtower verdict of 2018. punitive damages have been upheld, and wt has purchased the bond from travelers insurance (35m+ interest)-montana sc will rule later this year on the appeal.. .
Say what? It doesn’t necessarily spell imminent Watchtower demise after all? Bummer! Morph, stand down from red allert.
But the days are coming...
they say it will be out any day soon.
do you think the report will do major damage to trump?.
Tump didn’t collude with the Russians?
Pah! Fake news!
watctower has posted a $40,000,000 bond following montana's upholding of the nunez v watchtower verdict of 2018. punitive damages have been upheld, and wt has purchased the bond from travelers insurance (35m+ interest)-montana sc will rule later this year on the appeal.. .
Watchtower doesn’t have $40 million cash? Oh dear. Can you spell Watchtower collapse, Morph? Wherever you are...
I am so sorry Annie you have lost your mum at such a young age. That was younger even than I imagined. I don’t know if Watchtower history interests you at all. But even if it doesn’t it’s good to know your mum’s work is appreciated and made an impact. In particular a recent book by historian Zoe Knox acknowledged the contribution to the subject. I know many who will be hopeful about the next volume being published.
This is awful news. I knew your mum was unwell, but not very old. This is a complete shock. I am so sorry for your loss Annie.
how can the watchtower society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?
congregations.
119,954. members.
I think there are a few things to bear in mind with this comparison.
How many actually congregations do Pentecostals have? I doubt there are as many times the number of congregations of Pentecostals as there are adherents when comparing them with JWs.
The number of JW congregations worldwide is actually pretty impressive. Only the Catholic Church and a couple of other church organisations have more congregations worldwide than JWs.
And you are treating all Pentecostals as one group. Pentecostals consist of a huge number of different organisations with variations in belief and practice.
Plus Pentecostals are considered by most to be a denomination of Christianity, with mostly orthodox beliefs, so conversion to Pentecostalism is not as great a leap as it is for those leaving Christian groups to join JWs.
A huge part of Pentecostal growth has been in Latin America where millions of Catholics moved over as part of a wider political and social phenomenon that involved breaking up traditional power structures including the Catholic Church. There has been a trend for some who joined the Pentecostal movement to go back to the Catholic Church as the church attempted to address the concerns of many who had left.
My own observation of Pentecostal churches in the UK is that the long-standing groups such as Assemblies of God and Elim Pentecostal are subject to decline as all mainline churches. The only Pentecostal churches continuing to enjoy any growth are the ones supported by immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean. In my town the Assemblies of God Church closed a few years ago and the Elim church has declined significantly. There is a local variant of Pentecostalism which is peculiar to the area, and resulted from 1950s and 1990s (Toronto blessing) revivals. But this small group has declined over the last 20 years from around ten churches locally, to three small churches.
Pentecostal churches generally are characteristed by temporary bursts of activity and expansion, followed by decline and closure.
here is a you tube video made by a ex-lds member.. the comment made at the 5:48 min mark i found very interesting.. https://youtu.be/hjw4nazuzzy.
It’s interesting she says the Mormon church is worth around $40 billion and they collect around $8 billion from the membership each year. That sounds possible to me, and if it is remotely true, it puts firmly into perspective the windfall of around $1 to $2 billion Watchtower received from the sale of Brooklyn properties.
Presumably a lot of Mormon income comes from investment of various kinds. In the UK a lot of churches derive substantial income from letting out property they own. I don’t think Watchtower does any of that, which puts Watchtower at a distinct disadvantage. On top of discouraging education and historically denouncing churches that collect tithes or collections during services, it’s no wonder that Watchtower is in financial trouble. Add in the fact that literature production is now a net drain on resources and increasing legal fees and payouts, Watchtower faces serious financial challenges to say the least.