Going to hear an interview with Jo Nesbo at the Mitchell Library.
slimboyfat
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What will you be doing on the evening of the 11th ?
by Phizzy inmrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..
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President Trump launches missile strike against Syria
by jwleaks inpesident trump authorized the missile strike because “it is in the vital, national security interest of the united states to prevent and deter the use of deadly chemical weapons.” .
59 tomahawk missiles were launched from two us navy ships.. russia has condemned the action.. https://youtu.be/4svp3yfneyq.
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slimboyfat
Trying to work out why Trump bombs people is a bit like trying to work out why the Governing Body dumped the Book Study.
First they gave one reason. Then they gave a different reason. You suspect it might be an entirely different reason but people have conflicting theories and you can't be sure. The real reason might leak out one day. Or it might never leak out. In fact are they even clear about the reason in their own mind? Who knows?
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Why are the evolutionist's so upset?
by Esse quam videri inso many evolutionist's on this forum are upset at the terror attacks in europe such as recently in sweden.
it is just a logical step in the evolution of the human race.
should you not rather be celebrating the great changes taking place right before your eyes and constructing detailed explanations of the cell structure and dna development in the human brain.. you can't eat your cake and still have it.
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slimboyfat
From what I can tell most churches officially support evolution: Catholic Church, Anglican Church and so on.
However most Christians themselves reject evolution. For example in the United States only 19% of the general population believes in evolution, although this number is rising. Among those who attend church weekly, only 1% believe in evolution, and among those who attend once a month 9% believe in evolution.
Creationism is the most popular view among Christians and among the general population in the United States.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx
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news... From ITALY
by biblexaminer inan old friend, a "brother" called from italy.
updated on a few things.. most interestingly, he said they just had their final assembly at their "beautiful assembly hall".. why would it be the final assembly?
because it's sold!.
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slimboyfat
Or it might be cash flow. They need money and they need it now. No long term financial analysis involved.
Would they have the brass neck to ask JWs to build another Assembly Hall shortly after selling the last one?
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news... From ITALY
by biblexaminer inan old friend, a "brother" called from italy.
updated on a few things.. most interestingly, he said they just had their final assembly at their "beautiful assembly hall".. why would it be the final assembly?
because it's sold!.
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slimboyfat
They have only just built an Assembly Hall in Scotland. Would be really strange if they sold that too.
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Interesting new use for Kingdom Hall
by dozy inhttp://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-find-800-cannabis-plants-12839462.
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slimboyfat
For the healing of the nations.
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Just a quick Poll...Do you think the GB is sincere?
by NikL ini've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.
is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.
they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.
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slimboyfat
Can't find interview with Jack Barr's wife. Have you got a link?
Could only find this one, which must have been either before Jack Barr died or after his wife died, as she isn't included.
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Just a quick Poll...Do you think the GB is sincere?
by NikL ini've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.
is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.
they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.
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slimboyfat
Depends what you mean by sincere. And I think it varies by individual, and is all relative.
My take:
Splane - sincerely convinced, also sincerely full of crap, and very arrogant with it
Loesch - I have my doubts about him. He may have believed it fully to stsrt with, but now is in too deep to allow himself to deviate from the path, even if he realises it's rubbish
Morris - perhaps the most likely candidate for insincere hanger on, in my opinion
Jackson - actually seems quite sincere to me, perhaps the most sincere of the current bunch. He didn't do well at the ARC, but at least he tried
Sanderson - who knows? Quite young and ambitious. Who knows?
Lett - this guy is just plain nuts. Who knows what he believes? Does he know? I think yes, I'd put him down as a sincere believer
Who else is there again? I forget
Oh yeah Herd
Herd - I reckon he's a true believer too
That's my take.
In historical perspective I reckon the most sincere believer ever on the Governing Body was probably Jack Barr. And the most likely candidates for people who realised it was all nonsense - Nathan Knorr and Lyman Swingle.
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Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species
by cofty inevolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.
creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.
just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.
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slimboyfat
You seem to think that any post that questions an assumption you have made is a "straw man".
Your opening post says most Christians have "adapted" their theology in view of evolution.
In fact, as I pointed out, non-literal readings of Genesis by Christians greatly pre-dated Darwin. Therefore it's not terribly accurate to describe them as restrospective "adaptations". This is explained in the link I gave.
This is obviously highly relevant. And it's not clear whether you are unaware that non-literal readings of Genesis predate Darwin, or how you reconcile this with your "adaptation" claim, since you don't bother to say.
Instead your modus operandi is to never address the point made but accuse instead.
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Evolution Deniers - An Endangered Species
by cofty inevolution explains how everything descended from a common ancestor over millions of years.
creationists only seem to want to talk about what came before that common ancestor.
just for the sake of discussion let's pretend that the following is true.
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slimboyfat
Evolution is not an issue for most Christians. They have accepted the overwhelming evidence and adapted their theology. Evolution does not require atheism.
Better than that, Saint Augustine in the fifth century, argued that life developed under God's guidance on the basis of his reading of Genesis. He also argued that the universe was created from nothing and that time didn't exist prior to creation.
The idea that all Christians believed in creationism before Darwin came along and proved them wrong is, to use your favourite description, "wilful ignorance" of the facts.
You could argue it took science nearly 1500 years to catch up with Augustine's theological reading of scripture.
A good article on the subject: