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  Was Ray Franz Playing The Long Game?

  by rory-ks in

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  2. friends

  i'm just making my way through crisis of conscience for the second time and once again i am struck by the presentation of such detailed records.

  letters are shown in full - copies of letters from the branch, and to the branch.

  reports are quoted vebatim.

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  slimboyfat

  Who has Raymond Franz's archive now?

  Let's hope not the same people who have utterly failed to keep his books in print.
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  1914 to be abandoned around 2016

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the other day i was doing some research about "1914" for a friend on my wt cd library (spanish) and i found it quite interesting that the number of times "1914" is mentioned in the watchtower magazine during the previous 3 decades has been dropping exponentially as follows.... 1980-1989: mentioned 854 times.

  1990-1999: mentioned 492 times.

  2000-2009: mentioned 222 times.

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  slimboyfat

  Maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but someday, and for the rest of our lives, the Watchtower will abandon the 1914 doctrine.
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  1914 to be abandoned around 2016

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the other day i was doing some research about "1914" for a friend on my wt cd library (spanish) and i found it quite interesting that the number of times "1914" is mentioned in the watchtower magazine during the previous 3 decades has been dropping exponentially as follows.... 1980-1989: mentioned 854 times.

  1990-1999: mentioned 492 times.

  2000-2009: mentioned 222 times.

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  slimboyfat

  There might be a drop of 75% of mentions of 1914 over the last 30/40 years. But how many fewer words appear in the magazines in total these days. It might be a similar drop in total number of words. So in proportion 1914 might not be any less prominent.

  It was included in the new Bible. And it's centre stage of the crazy new overlapping doctrine.
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  Trump vows to repeal limits on churches

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know the jws would not necessarily take advantage of this (or may be they would) but certainly, they will spin it off somehow.. https://www.yahoo.com/news/religious-looking-trump-protections-081209487--politics.html.

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  slimboyfat

  Next election? We'll be lucky.
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  Goodbye friends

  by Freeandclear in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not killing myself lol i just wanted to say a short goodbye.

  i'm not leaving forever, i'm sure i'll pop in here and there but for the most part i haven't felt the need to check in here as often as i used to so i thought i'd say so long.

  this journey we're all on (life) and trying to make sense of it all is a very personal one.

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  slimboyfat

  You okay Landry? You should see a doctor about that.

  Mind you, last time I visited the doctor I told him I thought I was shrinking.

  He told me I'd have to be a little patient.
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  maths

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  on the front of the 2016 year book it says that the watchtower is spending $200 million us dollars a year on special pioners etc if they get $1 billion us dollars from selling all the buildings at bethel in new york by my mats that gives them another five years or so.what might happen after that ????

  :-).

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  slimboyfat

  DefInitely. Some people seem to think they are only pretending to be short of money. It doesn't look pretend to me.

  And rebelfighter makes a good point. Many assume that all the money from the property sales goes straight in their pocket. But for all we know they could have borrowed against their property assets years ago. It would have been very tempting when property prices were rising so fast.
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  Goodbye friends

  by Freeandclear in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not killing myself lol i just wanted to say a short goodbye.

  i'm not leaving forever, i'm sure i'll pop in here and there but for the most part i haven't felt the need to check in here as often as i used to so i thought i'd say so long.

  this journey we're all on (life) and trying to make sense of it all is a very personal one.

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  I had a look at your post history. I notice that you had an existential crisis 8 months ago but that it was resolved 7 months ago. I salute your concision and admire your ability to get on with it. I'm still languishing and directionless 17 years in. Personally I've never understood the need to make dramatic goodbye threads and would never indulge in the practice myself.
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  Hemoglobin-Based Oxygen Carriers - August 2006 Awake!

  by AnnOMaly in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i think this is the first clear, official statement regarding hemoglobin-based products.

  awake!

  august 2006, front page title "blood: why so valuable?".

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  slimboyfat

  AnnOMaly was a good poster her contributions are missed. Other good old posters on this thread too.
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  Not very zealous as before

  by anointed1 in

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  2. beliefs

  what i sense from the conversations of my family members and relatives who are jws is that at least some jws are not as zealous before with regard to the major subjects such as “sanctification of god’s name,” “vindication of his sovereignty” etc.

  they begin to feel that such subjects are imaginary issues.. this is a good sign.

  it shows people are worried about their own day-to-day worries.

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  slimboyfat

  A few trends among JWs I have observed consistently since the 1980s.

  1. They know less and less about their doctrines.

  2. They care less and less.

  3. They go on the ministry less.

  4. They take it less seriously.

  5. They talk less and less about paradise.

  6. They act less and less as if they believe Armageddon is coming soon.

  Just when you think they can't get more apathetic and unenthusiastic, they put it down another notch. It's not the religion it once was. Vindication of what? Sanctify the who? They don't care.
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  What have been some of the funniest local needs talks that you have heard?

  by DaPriest in

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  2. beliefs

  i remember once in berlin south germany there was a local needs part for the men only, and how they should use the toilet.

  in all seriousness for ten minutes a retarded nigerian was going on about how men need to sit down when using the toilet.

  no mention of anything else.. it transpired that some little kraut boy from an "interested" family would aim for the side of the toilet and leave a great big puddle for others to clean up.

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  slimboyfat

  Meeting parts were not often funny, more often extremely boring.

  I guess boring could combine with unintentionally ironic sometimes. Like the local needs talks telling us to improve our meeting attendance, directed of course at the JWs who were not in attendance to hear the talk in the first place.