on the front of the 2016 year book it says that the watchtower is spending $200 million us dollars a year on special pioners etc if they get $1 billion us dollars from selling all the buildings at bethel in new york by my mats that gives them another five years or so.what might happen after that ????
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DefInitely. Some people seem to think they are only pretending to be short of money. It doesn't look pretend to me.
And rebelfighter makes a good point. Many assume that all the money from the property sales goes straight in their pocket. But for all we know they could have borrowed against their property assets years ago. It would have been very tempting when property prices were rising so fast.
i'm not killing myself lol i just wanted to say a short goodbye.
i'm not leaving forever, i'm sure i'll pop in here and there but for the most part i haven't felt the need to check in here as often as i used to so i thought i'd say so long.
this journey we're all on (life) and trying to make sense of it all is a very personal one.
I had a look at your post history. I notice that you had an existential crisis 8 months ago but that it was resolved 7 months ago. I salute your concision and admire your ability to get on with it. I'm still languishing and directionless 17 years in. Personally I've never understood the need to make dramatic goodbye threads and would never indulge in the practice myself.
i think this is the first clear, official statement regarding hemoglobin-based products.
awake!
august 2006, front page title "blood: why so valuable?".
AnnOMaly was a good poster her contributions are missed. Other good old posters on this thread too.
what i sense from the conversations of my family members and relatives who are jws is that at least some jws are not as zealous before with regard to the major subjects such as “sanctification of god’s name,” “vindication of his sovereignty” etc.
they begin to feel that such subjects are imaginary issues.. this is a good sign.
it shows people are worried about their own day-to-day worries.
A few trends among JWs I have observed consistently since the 1980s.
1. They know less and less about their doctrines.
2. They care less and less.
3. They go on the ministry less.
4. They take it less seriously.
5. They talk less and less about paradise.
6. They act less and less as if they believe Armageddon is coming soon.
Just when you think they can't get more apathetic and unenthusiastic, they put it down another notch. It's not the religion it once was. Vindication of what? Sanctify the who? They don't care.
i remember once in berlin south germany there was a local needs part for the men only, and how they should use the toilet.
in all seriousness for ten minutes a retarded nigerian was going on about how men need to sit down when using the toilet.
no mention of anything else.. it transpired that some little kraut boy from an "interested" family would aim for the side of the toilet and leave a great big puddle for others to clean up.
Meeting parts were not often funny, more often extremely boring.
I guess boring could combine with unintentionally ironic sometimes. Like the local needs talks telling us to improve our meeting attendance, directed of course at the JWs who were not in attendance to hear the talk in the first place.
on the front of the 2016 year book it says that the watchtower is spending $200 million us dollars a year on special pioners etc if they get $1 billion us dollars from selling all the buildings at bethel in new york by my mats that gives them another five years or so.what might happen after that ????
:-).
The $200 million figure is only for travelling overseers, missionaries, and special pioneers.
As far as I can tell this figure doesn't include the cost of keeping bethelites, their travel, printing books and magazines, web presence, broadcasting, legal costs and out of court settlements, and whatever else.
Total expenditure must be much higher than $200 million. The revenue from selling assets may only keep them going for a couple of years, if that's what they are relying on.
It looks like they are in real financial difficulty.
http://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.
i recently commented on a thread in relation to the 607 bc - 1914 ad calculation, listing problems with the logic and mathematics.
afterwards, i wondered what made ct russell choose 606 bc in the first place.
here is my research so far.. i had read somewhere a suggestion that 606 bc was a number ct russell got from nathan balbour who in turn got it from william miller of the millerites.
Have you seen Alan Feuerbacher's excellent discussion of how Russell chose 606 and why JWs changed it to 607?
http://corior.blogspot.co.uk/2006/02/evolution-of-606-to-607-bce-in.html
the year book tells us that some activity in fs is being performed in countries that are banned, is this accurate?
how on earth is it accomplished?
do anyone have any experience?.
Depends.
Sometimes they lay low and sneak around.
Other times they poke dictators in the face publicly with predictable consequences.
There seems little rhyme or reason to it. We need to give up the idea that JW actions are rational or consistent, let alone the "one true way". They behave differently at different times according to the whim of the leadership, often apparently based on changing legal, political, internal organisational, and even personality issues.
i love math, i love calendars, and somehow, this always gets me.. 2520 - 607 = 1913. not 1914.. 2520 - 606 = 1914. from what i understand, russell realized this.
he had previously used 606 bc, of course, but then he switched it to 607 bc.
i know there was something about no zero year, so it actually should be less one, correct?.
As I understand it, they switched from 606 to 607 in order to make it still fit with 1914 and for no other reason. A bit like the two years before Cyrus told the Jews to go home. There's no actual reason why it's two years other than to make 1914 fit. How anyone can defend any of it is a complete mystery to me.
