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  Article in respected UK newspaper The Guardian - mishandling of sexual abuse

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  one day, they are going to have to face the music here just like they did at the australian royal commission.. looking forward to they day immensely.

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  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

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  slimboyfat

  And I was trying to be recursively ironic. Ah well.
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  Article in respected UK newspaper The Guardian - mishandling of sexual abuse

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one day, they are going to have to face the music here just like they did at the australian royal commission.. looking forward to they day immensely.

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  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

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  slimboyfat

  People are crabbit on the forum all the time. A correction of crabbit behaviour is not in order, get over it. ;-)
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  Why do so many JW's argue that they do not believe what they clearly do?

  by Crabby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ask a question recently, which was why do jw's not salute the flag, and i ask what page of the bible directs this practice.. all i got back was that i do not know what i am talking about and that they are allowed to do this, when i dropped 40000 google links proving that they do not salute the flag they just deleted it as though my proof could not exist.

  seriously this is common knowledge, my neighbor just put up a flag to keep the guy across the street away.

  so are there jw's who have no clue what they believe, or should believe?

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  slimboyfat

  Are you sure it wasn't Mormons you were talking to?
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  Hottest Topics - New Sort by Rank Option

  by Simon in

  1. forum
  2. announcements

  i have just enabled a new sort feature which should appear as a new tab called "rank" on any of the topic listing pages (by forum or subject within it).. there's also a "hottest" link in the main nav.. what does it do?.

  well, think of it like active topics ... the latest things go to the top.

  except instead of anyone being able to make something go straight to the top simply by posting on it, now the ranking is based on a combination of things including how many likes and dislikes they have received combined with when the posts were made.. what should happen is that likes for new posts will give them a boost as will replies but over time their effect will diminish.

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  It's already there, unless there's a New Zealand delay. ;-)
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  Three graphs in connection with the Watch Tower's current financial situation

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a number of public statements by the governing body indicate that they are experiencing financial difficulty and they have appealed to jws to donate more money.

  public information on the financial situation of the watchtower society is limited.

  but what does the information they do publish indicate about their situation?

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  slimboyfat

  I imagine there are plenty of legal-ish ways for people to make money from this sort of organisation. Well-connected individuals could get paid as lawyers, construction workers, doctors, consultants, providing raw materials at favourable prices, or whatever. These in turn could provide gifts and favours to Governing Body members and directors and other influential people. Some have hinted at such a culture around the headquarters that allows people to make an easy living from the organisation.

  If true this would only make a financial squeeze even more complicated and painful for the Governing Body to navigate without alienating important allies and worsening their own material conditions and comforts.
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  Hidden message in JW bunker video?

  by Dunedain in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i was speaking with a relative recently, who is "in" the borg, but is completely aware of the terrible hypocrisy from the gb down.

  he is not in the box, and its great to be able to have a realistic, and logical discussion about the current state of the org.. we started discussing, specifically, about that bunker video that was released in december.

  how it is being played at all the conventions.

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  slimboyfat

  I think they may be pumping up the end time rhetoric because... they really believe the end must be near. Maybe the GB have looked at their financial situation, looked at the abuse cases coming down the line, concluded the game is up, and further concluded that Armageddon must be coming soon to save the day. They are literally going for broke, in rhetoric and organisational consolidation.
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  Three graphs in connection with the Watch Tower's current financial situation

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a number of public statements by the governing body indicate that they are experiencing financial difficulty and they have appealed to jws to donate more money.

  public information on the financial situation of the watchtower society is limited.

  but what does the information they do publish indicate about their situation?

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  Yes it occurred to me that they may be facing a demographic squeeze. If I understand the Circuit Overseer guidebook correctly the Watchtower Society has made a commitment to Circuit Overseers who have spent a certain amount of time in the job that they will be pensioned out as "special pioneers" when they reach retirement age. If they really honour this commitment then it must be a tremendous financial burden, and increasingly so as pensioners live longer.

  I think the Watchtower may really be facing something of a financial crisis, the sale of Brooklyn properties only affording a temporary reprieve.

  It might explain the "bunker mentality" of the recent videos and magazines. The Governing Body may realise that with donations down, and costs up, they only have funds to last a few more years. They really believe it's God's organisation however, so they may be convinced that Jehovah will bring Armageddon before they run out of money. This might explain the more extreme end time drumbeat of late and harsh crackdown on faders. They are going for broke, literally.
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  Other Religions use the Name JEHOVAH too

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  are jehovah's witnesses really the only religion that promotes and preaches the name of jehovah?.

  jw's are always claiming that they are the only religion that preaches and uses the name jehovah, and that is why only they will be saved.

  for example, look at this quote from the watchtower:.

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  slimboyfat

  Wasn't the name invented by a Catholic?
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  Three graphs in connection with the Watch Tower's current financial situation

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a number of public statements by the governing body indicate that they are experiencing financial difficulty and they have appealed to jws to donate more money.

  public information on the financial situation of the watchtower society is limited.

  but what does the information they do publish indicate about their situation?

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  slimboyfat

  The $236 million figure is only the money spent on special pioneers, missionaries and travelling overseers "in their field service assignments". It doesn't include other costs such as workers at branches, literature and other production costs, legal fees and whatever other expenses. Yet the $236 million figure alone works out at $2000 per congregation. If other costs have been increasing at a similar rate then it's easy to see how costs may have spiralled out of control in recent years. On top of this donations may have suffered because of the recession, less literature being handed out, and legal settlements in the news involving millions of dollars. It's a perfect storm.

  So the burden on congregations just to keep the Watchtower afloat must be considerably more than the $2000 figure. Maybe $5000, upwards? This is not including congregation expenses.
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  Three graphs in connection with the Watch Tower's current financial situation

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a number of public statements by the governing body indicate that they are experiencing financial difficulty and they have appealed to jws to donate more money.

  public information on the financial situation of the watchtower society is limited.

  but what does the information they do publish indicate about their situation?

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  slimboyfat

  bohm the full phrase is "special pioneers, missionaries and travelling overseers in their field service assignments". This would seem to exclude workers at bethel, but who can be sure?

  As I mentioned, what began as a very precise figure, down to the last cent, when it was first published in 1985, has become progressively more vague, until now it's a figure is given as "over" a certain number of million.