Funny I just listened to a video where Peter Hitchens explains his own involvement with Trotskyist politics with reference to Hoffer.
I don't think JWs are a mass movement though, are they?
slimboyfat
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"The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements" - a book by Eric Hoffer
by OrphanCrow ini have just finished reading "the true believer: thoughts on the nature of mass movements" by eric hoffer.
the book was published in 1951, during the cold war, yet the theories and principles, that hoffer proposes to explain the phenomena of mass movements, are as relevant today as they were then.
(there are several threads on this forum that discuss aspects of hoffer's statements and theories.).
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"Age to Come" Christianity vs. Adventism
by EdenOne ini often read that ct russell was more influenced by "age-to-come" christians than adventist christians.
what exactly is "age to come" christianity?
what are some of its denominations?
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slimboyfat
You say you've often read this. Where do you read this? It's new to me.
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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube
by alanv inthe anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.
of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.
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slimboyfat
Excellent question wizzstick. Shame about the non-answer.
I wonder if others know the facts surrounding the Mormon church abandoning their racist teachings? As I understand it until 1978 they taught that people are born black as a punishment for failings during their prehuman existence and they were not allowed to join the Mormon priesthood.
Did that racist teaching actually become illegal or did they abandon it because of social pressure? If a church wanted to continue teaching racist beliefs would that be allowed?
I am curious because I agree with wizzsrtick these situations are comparable.
My guess is that the Mormon church changed because of social pressure rather than actually be ruled illegal. I think a similar dynamic will play out with Watchtower bigotry. It won't be made illegal but it will become so socially unacceptable that they have to change.
The Watchtower says "people can change".
Well I say "bigots can change!"
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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube
by alanv inthe anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.
of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.
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slimboyfat
Cofty you say your first comment wasn't about me. It would have been easier to avoid this misapprehension if you hadn't quoted me and highlighted my name in bold.
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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube
by alanv inthe anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.
of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.
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slimboyfat
Coded logic have we disagreed? I have only vague recollection.
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Having No Political Opinion Is Bull Crap
by Ame SF inhello, i'm ame and after such heartwarming feedback last time from my other topic sharing my current situation, i felt the urge to just share an experience of mine that accrued a few weeks ago.. i was at mcdonalds with my mother and little brother, eating our food and in the background was the news playing on the tvs they had in the dining area.
and what were they talking about on the news?.
gun control.. now, i love the news.
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slimboyfat
It's a matter of definition. Sweden defines various crimes differently. If there was a standard definition of crime across countries they would have a lower rate than most.
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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube
by alanv inthe anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.
of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.
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slimboyfat
I support free speech. It's not the assertion of free speech in itself that is objectionable about your comment, but the sneering irrelevance of the comment, taken at face value. Who is suggesting JWs should be locked up? What I actually said was that their views are increasingly unacceptable and they will probably disown them within ten years. How do you get from that to denying free speech?
Whenever there's a thread about shunning I don't see you declaring they have a perfect right to shun.
Whenever there's a thread about blood I don't see you declaring they've a perfect right to oppose blood transfusion.
Maybe you think those things, yet for some reason don't feel the need to say them all the time.
Yet whenever there is a thread about how bigoted the Watchotwer's statements are you feel compelled to declare that, while you oppose bigotry, JWs nevertheless have a perfect right to state bigoted beliefs.
Why is that?
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Moral indignation against "faders" shows JW apologists are morally bankrupt
by slimboyfat ini came across this weird blog that castigates fading jws for their "cowardice" and "hypocrisy" for not making themselves vulnerable to shunning.
apparently in the view of this blogger jws who discover it's not the truth are morally obliged to play by the watchtower rules and face the consequences of shunning.. http://jwresearchblog.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/fading-faking-and-lying-as-unbelieving.html#comment-form.
what is absent from the blog post is any discussion of the statement in the july 2009 awake!, that no one should be made to choose between their beliefs and their family.
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slimboyfat
I don't always agree with everything slimboyfat posts, but I'm with him 100% on this one.
Always rejoice at a sinner repented.
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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube
by alanv inthe anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.
of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.
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slimboyfat
Death throes of bigotry. They will disown this video and their homophobic rhetoric within 10 years is my prediction. It's just not sustainable in the modern world.
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Are we in a computer simulation?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.
consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.
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slimboyfat
Anything but discuss the actual argument.