I remember a pioneer brother who was a bit of a joker used to say that if he waved to a return visit from his car when passing them on the street - that counts as a return visit! The definition of return visits was something like “furthers the interest of the householder in the good news”. He used to say that a friendly wave was a good as a chat for encouraging the householder. Others in the group would get flustered arguing with him that a wave didn’t count as a return visit. I’m sure he was just winding everybody up. 😆
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Thought on “0 hours” reporting
by FFGhost inso everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
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Has The WT Allowed Outsiders to be Saved?
by NotFormer inhttps://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1734baj/they_just_had_a_huge_meeting/.
this reddit post suggests that the cessation of reporting hours isn't the only thing announced at the recent meeting.
can anyone in, or sufficiently well versed in jwdom confirm that the op's understanding of this announcement correct?.
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slimboyfat
The Reddit poster has an over active imagination. I don’t see pioneers resigning en mass or elders arranging mass underground meetings. This is fantasy.
Is there a change about people being able to repent during the GT? What are the details? This is interesting and would have psychological impact on believers long term. The idea that it ends JWs overnight is farfetched to put it mildly.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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slimboyfat
I think the biggest change was stopping charging for the literature in the 1990s. Until that point Watchtower was effectively a publishing company and their entire culture (including counting time, placements, return visits, and so on) reflected this. In some ways not counting time is the logical (if much delayed) consequence of no longer functioning as a publishing company.
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Just read that Carl Olof Jonsson died yesterday
by slimboyfat infor newbies, who was carl olof jonsson?
he was a jw in sweden who was challenged by a householder in the 1960s, who pointed out to him that secular history books don’t agree with watchtower that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, but instead place the event 20 years later.
the reason the date is important is because it is the starting date for jw chronology which leads to 1914 as the end of the gentile times, and the beginning of the last days, as jws understand it.
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slimboyfat
As I recall (I’m too lazy to look right now) yes Jonsson did question the whole concept of “Gentile Times” including the WT interpretation of Luke 21. He didn’t advocate simply shifting the chronology 20 years forward to 1935, or whatever. His argument was that the whole chronological endeavour was flawed on many levels, the date of the destruction of Jerusalem being just one.
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No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!
by BoogerMan inthis is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
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slimboyfat
Well this is going to mess up the nice graphs
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2023 WTS Annual Meeting?
by careful inthe first saturday in oct. is coming up soon.
that's when the org holds its annual meeting.
not that many years back, it used to be hyped beforehand with favored ones getting special invites.
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slimboyfat
I wonder, was there any reference at all, even a very oblique one, to the removal of AM3 from the GB? You’d think they might make some kind of vague reference to it, if for no other reason than to avoid the impression that are embarrassed about it.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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slimboyfat
I doubt he will post more videos, he’s clearly fed up. But he’ll still collect the money, always.
Earlier somebody said it’s possible to restore the view of dislikes on YouTube. Can somebody explain how that’s done? I’m curious how many dislikes he’s getting.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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slimboyfat
Did you say gifted liar? I thought you said especially grifted liar. 😉
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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slimboyfat
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In a way this was so predictable. He’s a toom tabard, an empty shirt, pure empty bluster. Of course he would half-heartedly start proceedings, take fright at the cost, give up, yet pretend it was happening anyway. Of course he would still solicit donations to fight a nonexistent legal case. Of course he would, and of course he did. It’s so him. What a joke.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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slimboyfat
What is it? Don’t leave us dangling!
Looking at his comments, he’s taking advantage of some pretty hurt individuals:
The time will come, Lloyd, when your voice will be needed stronger than ever. I’ve had a lot going on in my life the past 2 years…moving back and forth across the country twice, changing jobs, and I haven’t been able to devote a lot of time to watching videos but my support and pledges won’t stop. Your page, you, your distinct voice helped wake me up entirely. I’ve watched this channel for YEARS and you have help us not feel alone or like we’re going crazy. Please please please think about all the hundreds you’ve helped. Let that energy outweigh the negative energy. Your time will come again. It will. Rest assured. This is a “sifting out” time lol 😂 Your voice is stronger than ever to those that truly matter. I’m very emotional now. I wish things would go back to normal. But please, take care of yourself. I’m about to finally watch the convention rebuttals for this summer. You are my friend and you don’t even realize it. I wish you nothing but the best. I’m sure we’ll hear from you soon and just go with the flow….watch what happens. Good ALWAYS prevails over evil. ❤️