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  Why do Jehovah's Witness members incriminate themselves in judicial meeting?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why do jehovah's witness members incriminate themselves to any judicial process?

  how can three elders conduct a judicial meeting with a 15-year-old teenage girl who supposedly was rumored to fornicate, took drugs or was drunk from drinking alcohol?

  can she or the parents refuse to answer any questions?.

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  I think one major reason people confess, that I don’t think has been mentioned, is that people fear the judicial committee already have evidence against them, and that if they don’t confess then the lack of confession will be used as proof that they lack repentance.

  As I understand it, judicial committees are not up front about what they know. Their opening gambit will be to invite the accused person to confess to anything and everything at the beginning of the proceeding. And anything they don’t mention at the very start, but can be proved later, will be used against them in the decision to disfellowship.

  So whether to confess and demonstrate repentance, or deny and hope they don’t have evidence, can present a tricky dilemma.

  It's a set up where you can jump one way or the other, only to find out immediately you’ve jumped in the wrong direction.
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  German got his silver sword

  by fastJehu in

  1. social
  2. current

  on saturday 02-02-2019 german jws got there silver sword.

  rumour has it that all of europe received the translation yesterday, because gerrit lösch visited the european branch in selters (germany).

  can anyone confirm that?.

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  Interesting. This may be in response to accusations in Russia that their translation “not a Bible” because it is not called a “Bible”. I wonder if they will change fnd title and cover in other language versions, and in English.
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  Halls closing

  by iknowthetruth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my city philadelphia they closed many kingdom halls.

  my hall was desolved and most of the publishers were added to a congregation that only had 50 publishers.

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  slimboyfat

  Yet, you can see the discouragement in their faces.
  Nice job GB. Keep kicking the only people who care about you.

  I think the GB do realise the effect these cutbacks are having on morale. This is something to consider, because it indicates how much trouble Watchtower is in. They are implementing these cutbacks, despite the effect on morale, because they can see no other way to preserve the organisation at this point. They must be in deep financial trouble to resort to this.

  The "literature" has long railed about how callous the "corporate world" is - viewing employees as chattel, having no use for you once you cease to provide value to them, etc.

  Have you got any such quotes handy, because that would be interesting to compare.

  
  
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  German got his silver sword

  by fastJehu in

  1. social
  2. current

  on saturday 02-02-2019 german jws got there silver sword.

  rumour has it that all of europe received the translation yesterday, because gerrit lösch visited the european branch in selters (germany).

  can anyone confirm that?.

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  slimboyfat

  Have they changed the cover in German from “Holy Scriptures” to “The Bible” as in the picture? They didn’t change the cover title in English.
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  Interesting Find

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  scandal in malta.

  by paul j. bonanno and kent steinhaug.

  it was, and still is, a fact well advertised by jehovah's witnesses (hereafter referred to as jw) that every member who works in their general headquarters (which is located in brooklyn, new york, america), and their other worldwide offices, receives only room, board and a few dollars per month.

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  Wow this is nostalgia inducing. This was one of the earliest “apostate” stories I read online around 2000. I think it was on Freeminds. Pretty tame compared to what’s happened since.
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  Legal concerns about: "picnics"

  by Darth FayDehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "congregation picnic"2.

  "congregation gathering"3.

  "spontaneous gathering of jws”.

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  slimboyfat

  I like part in the elders book that says: just because you paid for the local KH, and are responsible for its upkeep, don’t get the idea that you somehow “own” the local KH!
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  Who will be resurrected? The righteous and the unrighteous

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  chapter seven.

  there will be a resurrection.

  17 who will be resurrected?

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  slimboyfat

  Did you know that traditional Christadelphian teaching is that only baptised believers (of their version of Christianity) will be resurrected? Billions of humans who never heard the Christadelphian message will never be resurrected and will never get a chance at salvation. On the other hand, baptised Christadelphians who leave the religion and later die, will get a resurrection and another chance, despite having left the religion.
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  2019 Elders Manual and a Whole Lot More!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  single zipped folderhttps://we.tl/t-uiqj87wimd.

  2019-02-02-musical preludeshttps://we.tl/t-zyfpnodizd.

  s-21-e congregation's publisher record (2018-12).pdfhttps://we.tl/t-i9qamx3s0q.

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  Oh man, the part that says a disfellowshipped person can get a lift to the KH if it’s in a bad neighbourhood and he has no other way to get there... but he has to be treated like on public transportation with no conversation during the trip. To top it off, an elder will monitor the “arrangement” in case it is being “abused”.

  I think it is clear who is being abused in this sort of arrangement.

  These people have no humanity and no common sense.
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  At the mouth of 2-3 witnesses a matter is established .Gods word the bible proves a generation is 50 years +, or - 5 years

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah`s witnesses make a big deal about the 2 or 3 witnesses in judicial decisions yet they ignore that evidence when it suits them.. firstly :.

  regarding the length of a generation matthew ch.1:17 gives a strong clue ,their are 3 lots of 14 generations mentioned which equal 42 generations from the time of abraham to jesus .. watchtower publications give abrahams birth as 2018 bc......they also give jesus birth as of 2 bc a period of 2016 years .

  2016 yrs.

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  slimboyfat

  Good point, a reasonable generation is around 40 or 50 years.

  And the idea that a “generation” can last longer than a human lifespan (as we are currently stretching the limits from 1914) is just insane.

  I don’t know who is more nuts, Splane for coming up with it, or the other crackers for going along with it,
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  2019 Elders Manual and a Whole Lot More!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  single zipped folderhttps://we.tl/t-uiqj87wimd.

  2019-02-02-musical preludeshttps://we.tl/t-zyfpnodizd.

  s-21-e congregation's publisher record (2018-12).pdfhttps://we.tl/t-i9qamx3s0q.

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  slimboyfat

  From the announcements and reminders.

  2. Guidance of God Brochure: The brochure The Guidance of God—Our Way to Paradise has been discontinued, and any remaining stock should be discarded. Publishers may instead make use of the brochure Real Faith—Your Key to a Happy Life.

  The Guidance brochure (published in 1998) was aimed directly at Muslims and contained frequent references to Islam and the Quran. As far as I can make out the Real Faith (2010) brochure makes no explicit reference to Islam. Is there any reason Watchtower is disposing of their Islam-focussed literature and replacing it with a generic brochure?

  We can read the discsrded brochure here.

  http://www.watchtowerwayback.org/jw-wb/English/Brochures/1998-2006%20Our%20guidance%20of%20God-Our%20way%20to%20paradise%20(2006%20edition).pdf

  Thank you Atlantis!