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  No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.

  well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.

  so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.

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  slimboyfat

  JWs can budge on anything if they want to. Russell was comfortable with the idea that animals evolved but humans were a special creation. Modern JWs could revert to that, or they could even accept human evolution too, as the Catholic Church does. I am not saying they will necessarily, but it's possible, I don't see why not.
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  No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.

  well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.

  so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.

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  slimboyfat

  Jwfacts lists some misquotes in the Creation book toward the bottom of this page.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-deception-lies.php
  

  The Dawkins one is my favourite (they quote the words in red):

  Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene, 1976, p.ix:
  "This book should be read almost as though it were science fiction. It is designed to appeal to the imagination. But it is not science fiction: it is science. Cliché or not, "stranger than fiction" expresses exactly how I feel about the truth."
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  Tried my hand at creating a couple of memes. What do you think?

  by nicolaou in

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  just a bit of fun..

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  slimboyfat

  Maybe I'll work out how to do it later and come up with something.
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  No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.

  well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.

  so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.

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  slimboyfat

  The Creator book was notable for its almost complete lack of discussion of evolution. It talks a lot about the origin of the universe, the origin of life, the meaning of life, the Bible and so on. Nothing much about natural selection, the fossil record, and all the things the blue Creation book majored on. It's as if they gave up arguing about evolution and retrenched with the cosmological argument, meaning of life and divine revelation.
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  Tried my hand at creating a couple of memes. What do you think?

  by nicolaou in

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  slimboyfat

  Being technologically completely inept, could you explain how to create these graphics? Can I do it on my iPad?
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  Watchtower's Illogical Teachings

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just writing down some notes to share with jws when i meet them.

  here are a few of the problems of logic i see in their doctrines.

  perhaps you can add to them.. systemic contradictions – jws boast about fighting for religious freedom – that is their freedom to share their differing views with people outside the organization - yet there is no freedom amongst members to disagree with any official teaching within the organization without the threat of losing friends and family.

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  It's true that the WT has taught that all Christians between 100 AD and the early 20th century were anointed. But it's also the case that they reckon that most of those who professed to be Christians were false Christians in that period. So their numbers work in their own terms.

  By the way, since they dropped the 1935 date as the cut off for anointed, I am not sure if they do still definitely teach that all Christians between the first century and the twentieth century were anointed. It's certainly what they used to teach when they had the 1935 date. At the moment what they teach appears a bit ambiguous. Maybe they will "clarify" at some point, especially if the numbers look increasingly incredible.,
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  No updated Watctower's articles on Evolution

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as far as i know, the "creation" book is out of print ?, am i right?.

  well, i was searching for new watchtower articles trying to debunk, for instance, human evolution.

  so, i did my homework, for the first time, so as to read past and updated papers and books on human evolution.

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  slimboyfat

  Has the extent of plagiarism in the blue Creation book been laid out fully anywhere?

  Yeah WT publications don't do extended argumentation any more. They just point to intelligent design type arguments and appeals to authority.
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  Watchtower's Illogical Teachings

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just writing down some notes to share with jws when i meet them.

  here are a few of the problems of logic i see in their doctrines.

  perhaps you can add to them.. systemic contradictions – jws boast about fighting for religious freedom – that is their freedom to share their differing views with people outside the organization - yet there is no freedom amongst members to disagree with any official teaching within the organization without the threat of losing friends and family.

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  According to Rodney Stark there were around 40,000 Christians in the first century in total.

  See full discussion including references to Stark here:

  https://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/improbable/luck.html

  So technically the JW claim about 144,000 could still be correct given a few assumptions:

  1. Stark is correct there were only 40,000 Christians in total in the first century.

  2. The vast majority of those who professed to be Christians between apostasy in 100 AD and Bible Stidents in the late 19th century were not spirit anointed.

  3. The total number of anointed in the modern period amounts to fewer than 100,000.

  If the number of anointed keeps rising it will become more difficult to maintain. But as it stands it's a pretty good fit, given JW assumtptions.
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  Will Donald Trump Be Impeached Before His Term Ends?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm thinking his willful failure to be briefed by the cia about russian election tampering and not understanding diplomatic protocall.

  making off handed statements without proper research about the mater.

  he's an outsider when it comes to running the government that will make big mistakes at every turn because he seems clueless when it comes to running a government.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-moore-predicts-trump-impeach-resign_us_58261464e4b0c4b63b0c6dee.

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  slimboyfat

  Yeah I agree with OutLaw.

  I reckon Trump is as likely to blow us all up before he gets impeached. Scary times.
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  Theme of this year's series of Conventions

  by MrTheocratic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was announced this week that the theme for the 3 day convention is "do not give up".

  these are the words that are spoken to someone who is struggling and is in the process of giving up.

  this theme tells me that many in the organization are tiring out and slowing down.

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  I am sure many are starting to wonder!!!

  Said every person who ever left the JWs after finding out it isn't true since the year nineteen canteen, or earlier.