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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  ...makes about as much sense as saying that science doesn't disprove a tea party it just makes a tea party unnecessary.

  And reality is socially constructed.
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  There is science that prove God exists

  by HopeEverLasting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.

  there is another mode for how he exists.

  now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.

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  Isn't using science to figure out God like using a ruler to measure how loud the radio is?
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  In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.

  he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).

  he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.

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  slimboyfat

  I start this thread in response to a comment by a JW apologist called SimonSays on another thread. He claimed to have read all three volumes of Vindication by Rutherford (my sympathy if true). He further implied that it didn't matter that old JW literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:

  I have read all 3 volumes of vindication, and understand it’s reasoning for that era. Of course, I won’t apply it to modern ideology, but the core value still holds.

  
  

  Well actually that's a bit of a stretch, because the Vindication books promoted the "vindication" doctrine what was arguably the major JW doctrine of the era, a doctrine that was unceremoniously dumped in the 1990s. Rutherford constantly emphasised the vindication of Jehovah's name as the most important issue of all: it was the main reason Jesus came to earth, it was the main reason for preaching, it was the main reason for Armageddon.

  So why did JWs dump it in the 1990s? The story goes that it was because hapless Karl Klein was posted to the Writing Deparment. Feeling a bit underappreciated, and wanting to make his mark on official JW teaching, he was scratching around for some "new light" he could invent. He noticed that the scripture that was often used to support the "vindication of Jehovah's name" actually talks about the "sanctification" of Jehovah's name. So Klein pointed out that technically JWs should talk about the sanctification and not the vindication of Jehovah's name. They could still talk about the vindication of Jehovah's sovereignty, but not so much, as it turns out. Thus was dropped the "vindication of Jehovah's name", which had been the central massage of JWs for most of the 20th century.

  So no, the "core" of books like Vindication I, II, and III have not been retained. Old JW publications go out of date, not merely in style, contemporary facts, or approach. The very core of old JW publications has been rendered obsolete by their changing teachings.
  
  
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  Experience You'll Never Hear at The Conventions: I write Porn Part Time and Pioneer!

  by MTSman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’m a pioneer in city of brotherly love.

  (yeah i said my city.

  don’t give a fuck) most pioneers who need extra money, get a part gig working as a security guard, barista, or making sandwiches for a few bucks an hour.

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  I've been thinking about doing the same thing! Can you explain where and how you've manage to monetise your work?

  I've often thought there might be a market for "Erotic Tales at the Kingdom Hall" or "Confessions of a Naughty Pioneer" or some such.

  The only thing holds me back is I don't think I've got your talent for fiction.
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  UK Article: Campaigner's 'grave concerns' over new directives for Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/campaigner-s-grave-concerns-over-new-directives-for-jehovah-s-witnesses-1-8068458.

  campaigner’s ‘grave concerns’ over new directives for jehovah’s witnesses.

  steven rose .

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  I disliked slidinfast's comment about his appearance yesterday. Then later I saw the videos of him blacking up and singing that weird song. And I too thought, "Mmm".

  Apostates are a strange bunch, you've got to give that to us.
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  Incredible cover of book published in 1932

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok, i am reading through the book the watchtower and the masons by fritz spring meier which i am finding a fascinating read; and discovered that judge rutherford published the book 'cause of death'.

  what is incredible is the book cover.

  the book was published in 1932 which would have been a little bit more eye catching back then.

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  Eve without a belly button!

  These days Watchtower artists avoid the belly button issue by covering up the area.
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  American democracy in crisis

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. current

  okay cut to the chase.

  the united states has got a problem.

  hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.

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  The thing about the video: the participants should have known it was a joke. But on the other hand, is there anything in there that Trump absolutely couldn't have said himself? It's hard to say that because he's said so many ridiculous things. Was there anything in the spoof videos actually worse than joking about political assassination? You don't get much more stupid than that. And that was actual Trump, not spoof Trump.

  The conclusion has got to be that Trump himself is actually a spoof, it's just that about a third of the country doesn't realise it. The idea that his whole campaign has been a deliberate attempt to help Hillary doesn't seem so far fetched.

  The bald guy at the back was interesting. He seemed to think it was all a joke, but he supported it anyway. Which kind of sums up the attitude of Trump supporters.
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  American democracy in crisis

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  okay cut to the chase.

  the united states has got a problem.

  hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.

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  I'm surprised not more comments on the video. It's one of the craziest things I ever seen. What is happening to America?
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  Warning: Watchtower computer dept. registers accounts on Ex-JW sites, coerces people to divulge their personal details

  by WTS Archive in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we had a bad experience with watchtower trying to infiltrate our forums.

  let this story be a warning for all you guys here.

  if you value your privacy do not ever send your real contact details to anyone, even if you trust them (because their accounts could be hacked or accessed by their relatives - and yes, this happened to people i know several times already).

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  slimboyfat

  I am at a loss to know what they are trying to achieve. Are they trying to stop leaks? That's never going to happen. There will always be leaks, surely they realise that.

  Or do they just like to think of themselves as virtual James Bond?

  If they want embarrassing and damaging stuff to stop leaking then the only way to achieve that is to stop writing embarrassing and damaging stuff in the first place.

  If their policies were humane, ethical and reasonable they wouldn't need to worry about keeping them blood secret!
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  American democracy in crisis

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  okay cut to the chase.

  the united states has got a problem.

  hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.

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  If you want to let Trump in by accident and precipitate the end of civilisation, I guess Green or Libertarian is the way to go.

  Vote for the crook not the fascist.