Posts by slimboyfat

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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube

by alanv in

the anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.

of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.

slimboyfat

I support free speech. It's not the assertion of free speech in itself that is objectionable about your comment, but the sneering irrelevance of the comment, taken at face value. Who is suggesting JWs should be locked up? What I actually said was that their views are increasingly unacceptable and they will probably disown them within ten years. How do you get from that to denying free speech?

Whenever there's a thread about shunning I don't see you declaring they have a perfect right to shun.

Whenever there's a thread about blood I don't see you declaring they've a perfect right to oppose blood transfusion.

Maybe you think those things, yet for some reason don't feel the need to say them all the time.

Yet whenever there is a thread about how bigoted the Watchotwer's statements are you feel compelled to declare that, while you oppose bigotry, JWs nevertheless have a perfect right to state bigoted beliefs.

Why is that?

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Moral indignation against "faders" shows JW apologists are morally bankrupt

by slimboyfat in

i came across this weird blog that castigates fading jws for their "cowardice" and "hypocrisy" for not making themselves vulnerable to shunning.

apparently in the view of this blogger jws who discover it's not the truth are morally obliged to play by the watchtower rules and face the consequences of shunning.. http://jwresearchblog.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/fading-faking-and-lying-as-unbelieving.html#comment-form.

what is absent from the blog post is any discussion of the statement in the july 2009 awake!, that no one should be made to choose between their beliefs and their family.

slimboyfat

I don't always agree with everything slimboyfat posts, but I'm with him 100% on this one.

Always rejoice at a sinner repented.

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JWs anti gay video reaches over 1,000,000 views on youtube

by alanv in

the anti gay video that watchtower recently produced has now had over 1,000,000 views.

of those who selected to like or dislike the video, over 92% disliked it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnk52bu92oe.

slimboyfat

Death throes of bigotry. They will disown this video and their homophobic rhetoric within 10 years is my prediction. It's just not sustainable in the modern world.

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Are we in a computer simulation?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.

consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.

slimboyfat

Anything but discuss the actual argument.

http://www.simulation-argument.com/faq.html

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Are we in a computer simulation?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.

consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.

slimboyfat

I have no idea. I listened to the argument on its own. It made good points. It didn't make me believe in Jesus, who may not have existed, for what it is worth,

Was looking forward to actual critique of argument. Should have known better.

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Are we in a computer simulation?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.

consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.

slimboyfat

The videos didn't mention Jesus. They argued that reality is dependent on observation and consciousness rather than matter in itself. Is there a real atheist response to this?

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Are we in a computer simulation?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.

consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.

slimboyfat

Materialism is a faith based opinion.

https://youtu.be/4C5pq7W5yRM

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Are we in a computer simulation?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.

consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.

slimboyfat

Really? I thought it was pretty clear.

Um, care to elaborate?

Experiments increasinly confirm that reality does not exist independently of observation.

http://www.nature.com/news/2007/070416/full/news070416-9.html

Reality seems to exist in pixilated form. It consists of thoughts rather than bits of matter.

Additionally computer simulations become more realistic over time. Logically at some point simulations will become indistinguishable from reality.

Which raises the question are we already in a simulation?

Given that when civilisations reach a level of development they will tend to produce simulations as we do, it follows that simulations probably outnumber real worlds many times over. So it follows that our reality is more likely a simulation.

But then we hit the problem of infinite regress as simulated worlds in turn create simulated worlds.

A simpler and more elegant explanation is that the world is not material at its base but is a projection from a superior being or God.

Atheists often complain that God has not revealed himself. Maybe he is doing just that, just now, in these very cutting edge discoveries in physics that point to a non-material base of reality.

Interested to know when you think the argument falls down.

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What a fader can say to a sleepy witness?

by Darkknight757 in

i have a question.

yesterday while the wife and i were hitting garage sales we seen a house selling tools.

this house happened to be a witness couple getting rid of some old stuff.

slimboyfat

You could ask if they think Jesus might have been married.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5762343623458816/how-wind-up-jw

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Are we in a computer simulation?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.

consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.

slimboyfat

How the simulation argument proves God.

https://youtu.be/v2Xsp4FRgas