Not Former, amazing experience. Yes, they do keep lists of "aggressive" people. "Anyway, he said he'd be back in two weeks, so I suppose that I'm officially a "return visit"? I did warn him about my mild form of bipolar disorder and that I couldn't guarantee that I'd be the same friendly chap next time. That's when it emerged that one of the ladies from a previous visit had apparently said something about me being aggressive and argumentative. So it seems that they do keep some sort of record about what the households are like, if only a mental note. I'm wondering if the kindly old auxiliary pioneer drew the short straw and got to knock on my door."
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by NotFormer inwell, i'm still processing this one.
saturday morning just gone.
my wife says: "there's a man in a suit at the door!
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How does the Watchtower Society find Deaf People in the community?
by blondie ini saw this article online today from a woman concerned about conversion tactics used by religious groups, specifically jehovah's witnesses, to find deaf people to convert.
it made me go back and see what the wts uses.. https ://limpingchicken.com/2025/06/12/rebecca-a-withey-concerns-about-deaf-people-being-targeted-by-religious-groups/.
deaf in wts.
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blondie
I saw this article online today from a woman concerned about conversion tactics used by religious groups, specifically Jehovah's witnesses, to find deaf people to convert. It made me go back and see what the WTS uses.
Deaf in WTS
Kingdom Ministry July 2012 p. 4-7 (this is just part of the “suggestions” how to find “deaf” people)
“Sign-language congregations and groups have had success making inquiries in residential areas. Perhaps the householder has observed a neighbor, workmate, or schoolmate using sign language. He may have noticed a street sign alerting neighbors that deaf children are present. Maybe he has a deaf relative. Keep in mind that the purpose of your visit may be viewed with some suspicion. However, you can do much to put the householder at ease by your genuine friendliness and your brief, honest, and dignified explanation. Some have had good results by displaying the Bible or other DVDs as they inquire whether the householder knows someone who is deaf. Then they simply mention that they wish to share the Bible’s hope with such ones. If the householder hesitates to provide information, he may be willing to accept your address card or a congregation meeting invitation to give to his deaf relative or friend…
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Predictions for the next decade?
by jehovaxx inas it’s nearly the new year my prediction over the next decade or so will see the sense of urgency dwindle.
then some huge huge changes.
for example by 2034 in a decades time, they will have address the 1914 issue and will come out and say we can’t be dogmatic.
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blondie
DOC, already happening: 3 at Janesville WI Assembly Hall.
Conventions will be smaller to make use of Assembly Halls (already happening) so as to avoid paying rent to outside facilities.
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Baptismal Failure Rates Among JW Bible Teachers
by Sea Breeze inthe 2024 data from the jw website indicates that jw teachers have an over 96% failure rate with their students : .
2024 average bible studies each month: 7,480,146.
2024 baptisms:296,267. number of bible studies it takes to produce one baptism : 25.25. this means that jehovah's witnesses have an over 96% failure rate with people who want to study the bible with them.
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Admonishment to the Governing Body of the Watch Tower Society By - YHWH
by EisMe inadmonishment to the governing body of the watch tower society.
to the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses: you have presented yourselves as god’s appointed messengers, yet nowhere in scripture does god declare your authority as his chosen representatives.
by falsely claiming divine appointment, you have led many into spiritual bondage, deceiving them into believing you alone have the truth.. misuse of donated labor & financial deception.
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blondie
EisMe, changing your name did not improve your thinking.
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A lot of bodies
by Elena ini have this memory of a gb member once saying that there would be a lot of bodies to be buried after armageddon.. does anyone else remember who said it?.
it was probably in the last decade or so.
ive been trying to find the video i’m sure it was on lloyd evens and all the other similar channels when it was said.. i can’t remember which gb member said it.
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blondie
I decided to check this out and found this (ludicrous): WT 1956 8/1 p. 465: "With such a glorious feast of victory concluded, only the bones, bones from one end of the earth to the other, will be left for burial. What a task that will be for the survivors, to cleanse the earth of every remaining evidence of Gog’s forces! Even with the work well organized it will take seven months, Jehovah says, just to bury the bones. Scouting corps will be sent out on a full-time basis to search the land thoroughly and, when bones are found, markers will be set up for those with the spades and shovels who follow. (Ezek. 39:14, 15) Those privileged to share in that cleanup work will not view it as a revolting and disgusting assignment but will rejoice to be alive when Gog’s long and oppressive rule has come to an end and when the wicked are no more. Survivors of Armageddon will be happy and will greatly rejoice to have a share in preparing the earth for a global paradise of beauty and perfection under the reign of the King Christ Jesus. But first, before that happy day, this message against Gog must be delivered in its completeness." Could be why some older jws in the past thought this.
But in WT1973 6/1 p. 346 "But the animals could never dispose of all those slain at Har–Magedon. Hence, the Almighty God will doubtless use some highly scientific means at his disposal to get rid of the surplus of the decaying bodies in a speedy and sanitary way. We remember that Noah and his seven fellow survivors of the global deluge were not burdened with burying the human victims of that world catastrophe after they came out of the ark and renewed Jehovah’s worship on earth (note word doubtless)
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Remember Hour Quotas?
by blondie inhour quotas timeline.
back in the old days long before 1952.
“after staying in our ‘home’ for two days we decided that if we were going to meet our quota of 140 hours for the month.
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blondie
Nice to the quotas laid out by the WTS. Per month, 10 hours, back calls (return visits) 6, bible studies, 12 magazines (if placed 6 sets if magazines, WTS said easily should do 6 back calls by calling back on all literature placemenrts, 1 bible study. (where is that in the bible?)
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Know it’s not true but stay anyway
by Elena inhow many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.
my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.
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blondie
DOC, yes, they don't have the push of the end is near after 1975, 1995, overlapping generations concepts being shared/ Some of my contemporaries even quit high school before 1975, and then when it didn't come then, they had to go back and get their diploma or a GED to qualify for any kind of paying job.
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Baptismal Failure Rates Among JW Bible Teachers
by Sea Breeze inthe 2024 data from the jw website indicates that jw teachers have an over 96% failure rate with their students : .
2024 average bible studies each month: 7,480,146.
2024 baptisms:296,267. number of bible studies it takes to produce one baptism : 25.25. this means that jehovah's witnesses have an over 96% failure rate with people who want to study the bible with them.
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blondie
HereIam60, I think they needed to make 3 contacts (including doorstep ones) to put it on their time sheet as a bible study and turn in a bible study report (no longer done). As to counting it as considering making contact 3 or more contacts, only one bible study is counted that month with one person (sometimes 2 if husband and wife), and 1 return visit per visit, based on years as a regular pioneer. The counting by parents studying with their changed has changed many times.
Example: One bible student, 3 times before counted as bible study, only one bible study noted on special slip and turned in (to keep track of how many separate individuals, contact info, publication studied...more complicated back then), and a return visit per each contact. Pre-1975, publishers were told that if person not at the kingdom hall after 6 months, to cancel study and move on to find another person who would study. After all the end is close, and can't wait on people for years to even attend one meeting....https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1969364#h=3
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Can someone remind me the reason's you could be disfellowshipped?
by SydBarrett inthe only reasons i can remember are smoking, sexual immorality and of course, apostasy.
there must be others but having been out since 1990, i'm drawing a blank.
i was thinking perhaps serious criminal offenses that result in prison, but then i remembered a brother in my congregation in the 1980's who went to prison.
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blondie
(Just reporting not supporting) As to suing another jw, the WTS does have an exception with this walk-around explanation: WT 1973, 11/15, p. 703-704
Questions From Readers
● Do Paul’s words at 1 Corinthians 6:1-7 mean that under no circumstances should a Christian take to court a case involving a fellow believer?—U.S.A.
Thus, for example, one who defrauded his Christian brother or who failed to provide materially for his wife and children would find himself outside the congregation if he did not repent.—1 Tim. 5:8.
The injured party could thereafter decide whether legal action should be taken in an attempt to force the guilty one, now disfellowshiped, to rectify matters. Of course, the injured party would want to take into consideration whether it would be worth the time and expense as well as whether the congregation could still come into disrepute by bringing to public attention the actions of one of its former members. If the wronged Christian conscientiously felt that God’s name would not be reproached and legal action was definitely needed, he would not necessarily be acting contrary to the spirit of Paul’s counsel if he were to take to court one who was no longer a part of the Christian congregation. Jehovah God has permitted secular authority to serve as his instrument in bringing lawbreakers to justice, and in this case the one wronged would be availing himself of legal help after exhausting the intracongregational means to have the wrong corrected. and here:There may even be times when Christian brothers conscientiously feel that they could go to court with fellow believers. This might be to obtain compensation from an insurance company. In some countries the law may specify that certain matters have to be handled in a court, such as wills that may have to be probated by courts. But this does not create adverse publicity or bring reproach upon the congregation. In handling such legal matters that would not affect the congregation adversely, Christians can be governed by what they consider to be best under the circumstances.