Posts by rmt1
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5The Revised NWT - A great timewaster
by Listener insometimes the wtbts are just brilliant in coming up with new ways of wasting the jws time.. with this new edition they will have to be getting their head's around new terms and phrases.
many jws will know a lot of verses off by heart, now they will be required to relearn them which will be no simple task.. they have been told to keep their old nwt for research purposes.
now instead of looking up one scripture they will have two bible's to look up.. the writing committee now has so much new material available to them to write copious articles about.
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What level of IQ does one have, to beleive " TRUTH " changes. ? or old "Light " old truths " New Light " new truths " ?
by smiddy inokay, i never went to university , or had a college education, though i`m damn sure that "truth" is "truth" and it never changes.. if you" beleived "something was the truth in the past and now found out it was not correct , you cant say it was an" old " truth ,it must have been wrong/false reasoning in the first place......so it was never really the truth.. sure you can be aware of a "new" truth something you never knew beforehand , though whether you knew it or not ,it has always been a truth.
example:the earth was the centre of the universe ,beleived as a truth.........that beleif was false , it was not an old truth.. if their was something you beleived before as true and you now find it wasnt true , then it was false / untrue .. their is no such thing as an "old truth " and a "new truth" that is apparently accepted by jehovahs witnesses .. if jehovahs witnesses were as honest as they profess , then they would acknowledge when they make adjustments to their beleifs/doctrines that they were wrong in their initial understanding of said scriptures instead of passing it off as old truths or new light.. i was a witness for 33 years before it became obvious something was just not right with this religion and it took another 10-12 years before i found this site , that set me free.
so i ask , is it an iq level ?
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rmt1
"Truth" is a proxy for consensus. Consensus is dependent on the census, the sample population. The truth or consensus of a small, isolated census, can differ GREATLY from the truth of consensus of a much larger, more exposed census. At some critical mass, enough people of the greater census throw their hands up, and their gauntlet down, and declare the findings of the greatest number, the last understanding to be left standing, to be "fact". That greater census typically comprises those most knowledgeable in some field of endeavor, the biggest fish of the biggest ponds, so they enjoy a great context of experience. They've 'seen it all' and can speak to it. They have seen a Lot more than the petty fish of petty ponds. A famous quote in literary theory is (varyingly) 'Meaning is context-bound. But context is boundless.' That statement should be parsed on an individual basis. =>One<= interpretation available is that "He who controls the greater context controls the greater meaning." That is why TWS claims God as their context. That is why he who writes the history or "His story" is the victor. That is why patriarchal text and interpretation is preserved and encoded in behaviors for women taught in 2013 AD.
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The real reason for the push to get children baptized.......
by EndofMysteries ini think the real reason is that many when they are in their teens and able to start thinking for themselves end up leaving by the time they get out of home, never baptized, and still continuing assocation with their family.
the wt doesn't like this loophole, so they are hoping to get them baptised before their teen years so that if they wake up and decide to leave, they will be dfed.
hoping to keep them trapped and be trapped before they understand the religion.
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rmt1
The adult parents who offer propitiatory child sacrifices to this Moloch have no excuse and are fully aware. This is too noxious a stench to pretend away. I would stick this under the umbrella of child abuse and hold the parent individually, severally, legally and financially liable for harm done to a child of 8 years old that was coerced into baptism. This is UN declaration of human rights territory. "Revolting" doesn't cover it.
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The real reason for the push to get children baptized.......
by EndofMysteries ini think the real reason is that many when they are in their teens and able to start thinking for themselves end up leaving by the time they get out of home, never baptized, and still continuing assocation with their family.
the wt doesn't like this loophole, so they are hoping to get them baptised before their teen years so that if they wake up and decide to leave, they will be dfed.
hoping to keep them trapped and be trapped before they understand the religion.
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rmt1
Stand for Pure Worship, excellent work with Poe's Law. The closer, the better, the more savage, the deeper the guffaw, and that's to one's health.
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The real reason for the push to get children baptized.......
by EndofMysteries ini think the real reason is that many when they are in their teens and able to start thinking for themselves end up leaving by the time they get out of home, never baptized, and still continuing assocation with their family.
the wt doesn't like this loophole, so they are hoping to get them baptised before their teen years so that if they wake up and decide to leave, they will be dfed.
hoping to keep them trapped and be trapped before they understand the religion.
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rmt1
Fast read:
http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/hitleryouth/hj-boy-soldiers.htm
Hitler's Boy Soldiers 1939-1945
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What level of IQ does one have, to beleive " TRUTH " changes. ? or old "Light " old truths " New Light " new truths " ?
by smiddy inokay, i never went to university , or had a college education, though i`m damn sure that "truth" is "truth" and it never changes.. if you" beleived "something was the truth in the past and now found out it was not correct , you cant say it was an" old " truth ,it must have been wrong/false reasoning in the first place......so it was never really the truth.. sure you can be aware of a "new" truth something you never knew beforehand , though whether you knew it or not ,it has always been a truth.
example:the earth was the centre of the universe ,beleived as a truth.........that beleif was false , it was not an old truth.. if their was something you beleived before as true and you now find it wasnt true , then it was false / untrue .. their is no such thing as an "old truth " and a "new truth" that is apparently accepted by jehovahs witnesses .. if jehovahs witnesses were as honest as they profess , then they would acknowledge when they make adjustments to their beleifs/doctrines that they were wrong in their initial understanding of said scriptures instead of passing it off as old truths or new light.. i was a witness for 33 years before it became obvious something was just not right with this religion and it took another 10-12 years before i found this site , that set me free.
so i ask , is it an iq level ?
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rmt1
How many fever dreams exist in the Apocrypha? I'd imagine for the book of Revelations' actual utility in ordinary life, and the amount of acrobatics required to make it appear timely and useful to a faith system, there are probably a dozen more of equal ratios hallucination to insight.
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AGM Release: The New, Improved New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
by Oubliette inthis just in from the annual meeting: a new release of the new, improved new world translation of the holy scriptures.
(reposted from http://m.imgur.com/a/crap8):.
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rmt1
My hat is off.
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"The excitement is PALPABLE"
by Separation of Powers ingot caught at the supermarket (in between the martini olives and snack crackers ) with several bottles of hard liquor in my basket along with some red licorice by a sister that has known me for years.
still respects me, not knowing that i am in full fade mode, or at least not recognizably knowing.
anyway, when she sees me, her eyes get all big and she heads in my direction, nearly ramming my liquor laden cart with her vegan oriented basket.. "hey sop, how are you doing?
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"Back at home, the well to do elders would flaunt that they had gone to the annual meeting as if they should be worshipped because they were so close to the hub of the organization the "Governing Body"."
Should be said twice.
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What level of IQ does one have, to beleive " TRUTH " changes. ? or old "Light " old truths " New Light " new truths " ?
by smiddy inokay, i never went to university , or had a college education, though i`m damn sure that "truth" is "truth" and it never changes.. if you" beleived "something was the truth in the past and now found out it was not correct , you cant say it was an" old " truth ,it must have been wrong/false reasoning in the first place......so it was never really the truth.. sure you can be aware of a "new" truth something you never knew beforehand , though whether you knew it or not ,it has always been a truth.
example:the earth was the centre of the universe ,beleived as a truth.........that beleif was false , it was not an old truth.. if their was something you beleived before as true and you now find it wasnt true , then it was false / untrue .. their is no such thing as an "old truth " and a "new truth" that is apparently accepted by jehovahs witnesses .. if jehovahs witnesses were as honest as they profess , then they would acknowledge when they make adjustments to their beleifs/doctrines that they were wrong in their initial understanding of said scriptures instead of passing it off as old truths or new light.. i was a witness for 33 years before it became obvious something was just not right with this religion and it took another 10-12 years before i found this site , that set me free.
so i ask , is it an iq level ?
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rmt1
It is a matter of having the courage to act on your conviction and take squarely on the chin the consequences of action. TWS depends on cowardice to face consequences, and complicity to enforce consequences. I was a coward from 14 to 25. I'm not particularly bright and frequently daft. The smartest of the smartest of the smart likely get fed up very early because they can run the odds better, they can land on their feet faster, and they're off to a life of self-direction faster. To do something courageous, Early, when it Really matters, before you have lost a great deal of potential, requires an informed set of opinions and experiences, and the knowledge of alternate pathways and the relative odds of success or failure taking those paths. You could call that intelligence. You could call it self-preservation.
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Watchtower methods of subliminal messages
by ozziepost init isn't necessary to use words to convey a subliminal message.. take for example the use of illustrations (photos) found on page 26 in the february 15, 2001 issue of the watchtower.. the three pictures show witnessing in differenet parts of the earth, namely the east, europe, and africa.. 1. woman in smart asian dress with hat.. 2. man with black clothing replete with beret.. 3. african man with long sari type robe which is light brown in .
colour, quite smart and clean.. in each picture the witness is dressed in western business clothing whereas the person being witnessed to (the worldly person) is in native dress.. is this another subliminal message?
native or customary dress marks an individual as wordly?.
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