Posts by Bleep

God has always existed and made the universe somehow. Jehovah did not use preexistent material. Genesis 1:1 says "In the beinning God created the heavens and the earth." If matter had always existed, it would have been inappropriate to use the term :beginning" with reference to material things. Person and thing was created after the universe was created. Not real sure about place since God would of needed some kind of space to be alive. But yet again that takes me back to the question of God being in another time instead of being at a certain place. Or maybe God is at a certain place in time which has no beginning. That way no one can destroy God. Would you trust your creations at first? Some day we will be able to comprehend just who exactly is our creator.

Some people get confused when using the word spirit. It can also mean God's active force, or "spirit" Hebrew word tu'ach, to accomplish his creature purpose. The reason the word he is used in place of God could be for grammer purposes only. for example. Jehovah is God, He created all things. Instead of Jehovah is God, Jehovah created all things.

It could be changed like this: Jehovah is God, Spirit created all things. Jehovah cannot be a thing, if he was then it would be, Jehovah is God, it created all things.

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Is God a person, place, or thing?

by Bleep in

just want to take a pole describing our father in heaven.

Bleep

Saying that it is my God does not help the poll. It is what you think God is and not what I think God is. If you thing there is none then God would not of fit in the person, place,
or thing category. So berten would be out of the poll altogether. I think he is only here to make fun of the poll.

You are perfectly right jgnat, it is not about my God at all or me being God. I am glad you got that right!

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Who cares about Bible Principles.

by Bleep in

i go by the holy scriptures.

that is why i like the bible research topics.

the watchtower is only one source of info out there, nuff said?

Bleep

Thank you minimus for clearing that up. Just saying who cares does not help with communication. You could of spoke from the "gut" as many people do here with more abusive speech. On the Official JW web sites there is a common way of doing things. I just got a little confused.

Just shows me who is the most unethical here. That do no harm principle could fit right in. Slander might also fit but that is more of a right than a principle.

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Scripture to Back Beliefs

by Gritsgirl in

we have close friends who secretly became jw's.

now that they are "out" they say that war is wrong and our son shouldn't join the military.

we know that war is not what god wants, however, we need scripture to back defending our country and protecting our loved ones.

Bleep

JW's do not celebrate birthdays. All I can think of is Wedding Annivereries and Christ' death for our sins.

To answer your question of anything in the Bible that supports nationalism, I have found no information that supports your question.

Other than paying taxes the Bible says this about human efforts, "Acceptance of the Nation-State as a legitimate source of authority led to nationalism. The New Encyclopaedia Britannica states: "Nationalism is often thought to be very old; sometimes it is mistakenly regarded as a permanent factor in political behaviour. Actually, the American and French revolutions may be regarded as its first powerful manifestations." Since those revolutions, nationalism has swept across the Americas, Europe, Africa, and Asia. Vicious wars have been legitimized in the name of nationalism.

British historian Arnold Toynbee wrote: "The spirit of Nationality is a sour ferment of the new wine of Democracy in the old bottles of Tribalism. . . . This strange compromise between Democracy and Tribalism has been far more potent in the practical politics of our modern Western World than Democracy itself." Nationalism has not produced a peaceful world. Toynbee said: "The Wars of Religion have been followed, after the briefest respite, by the Wars of Nationality; and in our modern Western World the spirit of religious fanaticism and the spirit of national fanaticism are manifestly one and the same evil passion."

By means of the myths of "sacred kingship," "divine right of kings," "popular sovereignty," and "national sovereignty," rulers have attempted to legitimize their authority over fellow humans. After considering the record of human rulers, however, a Christian cannot but share the thought expressed by Solomon: "Man has dominated man to his injury."-Ecclesiastes 8:9.

Rather than worship the political State, Christians worship God and recognize in him the legitimate source of all authority. They agree with the psalmist David who said: "Yours, Yahweh, is the greatness, the power, the splendour, length of days and glory, everything in heaven and on earth is yours. Yours is the sovereignty, Yahweh; you are exalted, supreme over all." (1 Chronicles 29:11, The New Jerusalem Bible) Yet, out of deference to God, they show proper respect for authority in both the secular and the spiritual fields. Just how and why they can do this joyfully will be examined in the two articles that follow."

The Catholic Encyclopedia states: "This 'divine right of kings' (very different from the doctrine that all authority, whether of king or of republic, is from God), has never been sanctioned by the Catholic Church. At the Reformation it assumed a form exceedingly hostile to Catholicism, monarchs like Henry VIII, and James I, of England, claiming the fullness of spiritual as well as of civil authority."

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Apostates don't burn they just stay dead.

by Bleep in

when the time comes for being judged in perfect conditions we will still have ridiculers picketing those who know god's word.

jesus planted a great seed for us all; why not take advantage of that now by learning instead of blaspheming?.

funny how people think we are being judged now.

Bleep

Trying to take Satan out of the picture ISP?

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Apostates don't burn they just stay dead.

by Bleep in

when the time comes for being judged in perfect conditions we will still have ridiculers picketing those who know god's word.

jesus planted a great seed for us all; why not take advantage of that now by learning instead of blaspheming?.

funny how people think we are being judged now.

Bleep

LDH, please read some more stuff I have in these shreds. I already have shown evidence from the Bible that my hell would be empty.

You might want to try the middle of page two on my topic of hellfire. In page three I have a brief history of the Hellfire Doctrine on that same thread.

Page 2 of this topic half way down. Page 4 almost at the bottom.

If you have any good questions get back to me.

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Hellfire loves "Dumbass people".

by Bleep in

any questions about hellfire are welcome.

the only response i got from crazydrinker was, "youre a dumbass".

rofl .

Bleep

What's that got to do with Hellfire Doctrine? Ask some questions other than personal matters.