Posts by steve2

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Are ex-jw's or "apostates" addicted to jw-bashing?

by booker-t in

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this might seem like a funny question to ask but my mom told me that "apostates" are addicted to jw-bashing and cannot let it go and have a life.

i asked her what she meant by this statement and she told me that all ex-jw's talk about is the wts and jw's and negative things about the jw's.

she said that we get up thinking about jw-bashing and go to sleep thinking about jw-bashing just like a drug addict.

steve2

Who the hell cares what JWs think?

I agree absolutely. My life was ruled by them when I was one of them and I will not let what they think of me now rule my life. So, they see what I do as negative. So what?

When people learn to assert themselves and speak out against something, family members often complain, "What's wrong with them? Why can't they be their old self again? What's got hold of them?" So too with the JWs: They much prefer that ex-JWS fade right away and keep quiet. Speaking out is part of the growing and healing process. It sure beats suppressing one's feelings and taking it out on one's own self. Speaking out is empowering!

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Jehovah Witnesses for Sale

by alias in

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jehovah witnesses for sale.

aff check out the deals now!.

gotta love the "ebay" google ads showing up on some of these pages.

steve2

dont buy kingdom ken..he's not anatomically correct!

All the better, I'd say. What's his going price?

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The John Denver Issue, vote now.

by londoner in

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this is for those of you who sent me a private message saying you dont believe me, your letting your old jw traits come out, you know, not believing things when the facts stare you in the face unless it comes from the org.

maybee you should go back and re join them.. to confirm what happened .

i was at a john denver concert in the uk many years ago, he asked all catholics to stand up, after he got them seated he did the same with church of england, then the same with a couple of other religions, after he asked all jw's to stand up he announced that the concert would not go on untill they had all left and he then left the stage.

steve2

... if you disagree with my comment, you can do so, but you don't have to call it "lame".

Hey my apologies; I did over react to your comment.

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Jehovah Witnesses for Sale

by alias in

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friends

jehovah witnesses for sale.

aff check out the deals now!.

gotta love the "ebay" google ads showing up on some of these pages.

steve2

What I'd like to know as an informed consumer is this: If I buy a JW and he doesn't work as instructed, can I return him? While I know what the reject policy is (absolute shunning), I would like to know what the "return and replace" policy is . Thank you in anticipation.

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The John Denver Issue, vote now.

by londoner in

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this is for those of you who sent me a private message saying you dont believe me, your letting your old jw traits come out, you know, not believing things when the facts stare you in the face unless it comes from the org.

maybee you should go back and re join them.. to confirm what happened .

i was at a john denver concert in the uk many years ago, he asked all catholics to stand up, after he got them seated he did the same with church of england, then the same with a couple of other religions, after he asked all jw's to stand up he announced that the concert would not go on untill they had all left and he then left the stage.

steve2

I doubt he 'eye-witnessed' it. The whole thing just sounds bogus.

An understandable point of view, I suppose. But, as I used to wonder when JWs expressed their unkind misgivings about the alleged truthfulness of someone else's account, is there a more helpful way this doubt could be expressed?

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FOND FAREWELL TO THE BI-MONTHLY AWAKE!

by steve2 in

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with the jw congregations about to be informed that the ubiquitous awake!

magazine is to be issued just once a month from january 2006, now is an apt time for interested parties to share brief memories and/or impressions about the bi-monthly awake!

magazines, whether poignant, hard-hitting or humorous.

steve2

Young People Ask: How Can I Stop Masturbating?
First, hold the article in your right hand...

Ah, such tenderly traumatized memories - although I swear the instruction to hold the magazine in your right hand seems a late amendment. But.... hold on...by golly, it seems to work. Where was this instruction when I needed it almost 40 years ago?!! Keep those memories coming.

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FOND FAREWELL TO THE BI-MONTHLY AWAKE!

by steve2 in

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with the jw congregations about to be informed that the ubiquitous awake!

magazine is to be issued just once a month from january 2006, now is an apt time for interested parties to share brief memories and/or impressions about the bi-monthly awake!

magazines, whether poignant, hard-hitting or humorous.

steve2

With the JW congregations about to be informed that the ubiquitous Awake! magazine is to be issued just once a month from January 2006, now is an apt time for interested parties to share brief memories and/or impressions about the bi-monthly Awake! magazines, whether poignant, hard-hitting or humorous. Here are a few of yy memories to kick things off:

I remember as a 6 year-old browsing through a copy of the Awake! at my grandparents and reading the scripture on the cover that said something like, "Now is the hour for you to be awake...". This puzzled me because to my young concrete thinking mind how could I read that if I wasn't awake? My patient JW grandmother explained to me that it meant being spirtually awake... Now I was even more confused.
Another memory: As a 15 year old, I read an article in the Awake! on different shoe-polishing methods and, accompanied by the visiting Circuit Overseer, presented this article to a puzzled householder who slammed the door in my face. I subsequently asked the CO if the Great Tribulation struck right now, would that householder be held accountable because I never got a chance to preach the goodnews but I did spout off a few intriguing facts about shoe polishing. The unsmiling reply I got was, whenever we visit people, Jehovah sees what's in their hearts and that based on the slammed door it was clear that the householder would be destroyed. Quite a consequence for rejecting a magazine offer on shoe polishing.
Letters to the Editor. This was a relatively late introduction in the magazine's history and seemed to provide a perfect forum for airing reader's concerns. However, as we know, for every critical letter, there was a perfectly orchestrated "appreciative" letter from another reader which never failed to show up the bad attitude of the writer of the critical letter. Occasionally, the editor allowed that a mistake may hah been made; but, from memory, these were minor admissions.
Who can forget the bold and confident assertion about 1914 on the insider front cover? Who can forget how it suddenly disappeared?

Your turn. Your memories and impressions of the Awake! please.

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Awake Moving To Monthly Publishing

by Valis in

i just recieved this note from one of our faithful and discreet slaves... keep an eye out for the march 2005 km.

word is that the awake will only be published once a month starting in january 2006.. sincerely,.

district overbeer.

steve2

Imagine how much more badly off "profit-wise" the organization would be if it had to pay its bethel employees a salary, or worse, had to match salaries at bethel with an even half-way decent salary package found elsewhere. So, despite relatively low labour costs and a membership that "willingly" buys the stock and then distributes it, the organization is still struggling. I say they should bring in the ten percent tithe and get it over with. Hey, did I say that out loud?

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The John Denver Issue, vote now.

by londoner in

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friends

this is for those of you who sent me a private message saying you dont believe me, your letting your old jw traits come out, you know, not believing things when the facts stare you in the face unless it comes from the org.

maybee you should go back and re join them.. to confirm what happened .

i was at a john denver concert in the uk many years ago, he asked all catholics to stand up, after he got them seated he did the same with church of england, then the same with a couple of other religions, after he asked all jw's to stand up he announced that the concert would not go on untill they had all left and he then left the stage.

steve2

let's just say that there was a gigantic event hosted by the jehovahs witnesses, and you had to pay 20 bucks or so to get in...and it was clear to them that sitting in Row 12 Seats A-H were a whole bunch of apostates - do you think they would let them stay, or would they order them to leave?

At first glance this is a persuasive point of view: Giving the JWs a taste of their own medicine.Then again, let's credit Denver with having been capable of taking responsibility for the expression of his own prejudices. I would not mwant to reduce the impact of his bigotry by stating that, if the tables were turned, the targets of his bigotry (the JWs) would more than likely treat others with similar contempt. A lame justification indeed.

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It's Award Season....Let's have a JWD "Academy Awards"

by xjw_b12 in

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this is the time of year for the "awards" shows.

we have witnessed seen the people's choice awards, the golden globe awards, and the academy award nominations were announced today.

i think it is time for the jwd awards.. every nominee is a winner.

steve2

The following nominations for the following awards are proudly announced

The Gone With Wind Award for the Best Shelved Belief:

I nominate the 1975 fiasco. Any other contenders?

The One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest for the most unhelpful advice JWs give each other:

I nominate the following (a "solution" to every conceivable personal problem): "Pray more, study more, attend meetings more and preach more". Oh, "and keep taking your medication".

The Sound of Music Award for the most outrageous claim the JWs make:

I nominate: "Jehovah's people are the happiest people on earth"

The Last Tango In Paris Award for the most hypocritical JWs ever:

I nominate the numberless older JW men who get sick of their wives, commit adultery with sweet young things, get disfellowshipped, divorce their wives, marry the sweet young things, do their time outside the organization, get reinstated and act as if nothing's happened.

The Godfather Award for the most viscious thing a JW has done to another person and got away with it.

I nominate my JW Uncle _____ who has refused to invite to his birthday for at least twenty years (The fact that no one else gets an invite either is immaterial. I feel really hurt by this viscious neglect). Any other contenders?