Hey Lynne,
I also really enjoyed CoC.Now get the book In Search of Christian Freedom,it goes into more details about many issues.
unbelievable.... matters presented were really disturbing and hurting... not that information presented in this book is new, but i didn't think it could be this bad... .
especially thins one.. a letter written by the society to all circuit and district overseers.
(p.293)keep in mind that to be disfellowshipped, an apostate does not have to be a promoter of apostate views.
Hey Lynne,
I also really enjoyed CoC.Now get the book In Search of Christian Freedom,it goes into more details about many issues.
i have never posted my story on jwd and it was only recently that it occured to me that i should really make more of an effort to; here is the first part....sorry if its longwinded.... .
i was brought up in the borg from the age of 18 months old and as you can understand i have known little else.
previous to being in the truth my mother was an unwanted child and beaten by her mother, sure enough she fell into an abusive relationship with my father which left her with minus zero confidence and on the verge of a nervous breakdown; apparently my mum was considering throwing us both off a railway bridge she was that depressed and to her there was no point in living.
Sounds like an upbringing from hell;but probably considered normal among jw's.I feel for you man and look forward to part 2.
Goldminer
i actually have been reading these forums for about two years now and just decided to finally register.
where does one go to make a proper intro post?
edit: alrighty then, i guess i will do my little intro here.
Hi Ruby,
A nice big welcome from northern ontario! I bet you could tell us a few interesting stories from your jw life.Anyways hang around,there are lots of interesting people here.
Goldminer
i must say, i never thought that i would see the day when i would find a site about disillusioned (mostly) jehovah's witnesses, but low and behold...one truly exists.
first let me start off by saying thank you to the creators of this site, and i'll have you know that i've been lurking for several days now and i am just finding the time to finally log on.
i've been a member of the borg for over 20 years now, been baptised for about 14 of those years and now i find myself in the most unusual of places.
Hey!Welcome pele38!
Nice to have you join us.There are many here in the same boat as you.Myself I've been fading for 6 years now,my wife is making hard for me though.If you think the WTS might have the truth,read Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom by Raymond Franz.All your doubts will be erased and I guarantee you I won't be the last one to recommend you read those books.
Goldminer
i was and i am ever thankful to this board and all the wonderful members on it that have contributed to my freedom.
thankyou all so much and i think i might be becoming a jwd addict.
i love this board it is so helpful.
I have found this board very helpful.I started fading in 1999 but it's been very hard with my wife.For years I kept it all inside,unable to vent without being called an apostate.After a while I didn't talk about it anymore and just let build up inside.When I signed up last year,I really needed a release and this site has been the best.
Reading Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom has also helped a lot.
Thank you everybody here for accepting me the way I am and for being yourselves also.
Goldminer
after 9 long months of living in a shelter at the y here in ottawa in one tiny room --- .
i have finally got a place to live.. it is small and i will have to get rid of a few things - ok a lot of things but i will have a home again.
it is a small apartment in a seniors residence.
Hey,
I'm happy for you and hope things are good for you there.
btw,I was in Ottawa in 2001 for a jw wedding.He turned out to be a freak in more ways than one and she's still with him,the loyal,submissive jw wife.
After our infamous PO letter of 1998 I started asking questions and never got any answers.The PO sais he got his instructions from the society so I asked the CO if that's where the instructions came from.He said the local bodies of elders can do what they want locally.OK.
Is that what you call passing the buck?From then on I really started thinking there was a lot of hypocrisy in this organization,I started fading a year later,still am because the wife just won't let go and be happy.
Goldminer
i've a little experience in the past with what my mind has done to create a reality for me that would help me resolve or overcome my fear of leaving the cult, but i'm interested in what experiences or actual knowledge any of yall have on the subject.
it seems mind power may well be a resource well worth tapping into.. what are yall's thoughts on this subject?.
frannie
I have the audio program The Psychology of Winning by Denis Waitley.It is very mind-opening to the way we think and how we perceive things.For example,what the mind dwells upon,the body acts upon;if you constantly think you're sick,you probably will be.Also,it's not what you are that's holding you back,it's what you think you are not.For example,you might think you could never be really good at something because that's how you perceive it in your mind when in reality you could succeed at it.
Anyways,I've listened to it many times and I've truly benifited from it.The mind really is a very powerful thing.
Goldminer
well, last night i was completely determined to tell my wife just three things i had learned.
i was just going to focus on lies - not scripture, or stupid stuff ... just lies.. 607/1914trinity (trinity brochure lies)cross (reasoning book lies and archeaology).
if she starts to question other stuff, or if she starts in on a debate about the trinity, i was going to shut her down and let her know i am willing to talk to her about that - but not right now.
Ithinkisee,
Hey,how's it going?This thread has been very interesting to read.I'm still following your story very closely,it's like a good soap-opera,and also,I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to my wife(I think I dropped my paddle !@#$%).My wife is inactive and attends very few meetings,she's dying of guilt and blames me for her depression and spiritual suffering.Yet at the same time time she is extremely loyal to the WTS and it seems that no amount of reasoning can get her to think for herself.
Anyways,you seem quite determined,I hope you succeed and I"m cheering for you man.
Goldminer
what would it be?
for me i would get rid of the disfellowshipping!
their existence....