Posts by MerryMagdalene

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letter from mom/letter to mom

by MerryMagdalene in

if anybody feels up to wading through what follows and giving me any feedback on it, i would really appreciate it, but, if not, that's cool too.... letter from mom (9/29/04):.

my dear one,.

i guess you know no one on earth is as dear to me as you.

UPDATE (sort of)...Mom stopped by today to see my daughter (she lives about 30 miles from us). It was pretty obvious she hadn't received my letter yet, but it also seemed as if she hadn't written the letter I received from her and posted here.

I'm so confused. She was friendly in a reserved sort of way, brought gifts, gave me money to spend on my daughter, then wanted to take her to the store. Because she doesn't have a car seat, she asked to borrow my Jeep which does. I said, "Hey, I'll just drive you. I have to go down town anyway." So she decides to take her own car and meet us there. After picking up a few things at the health food store, she suggests going to the park, so we do and have a lovely time. She looked a little sad saying "goodbye" on her way back home and telling XOX (my daughter) she loved her. But that was it. Oh, except for asking if she could take her to a special once-a-year picnic held by some "friends" in the local congregation and telling me to think it over.

So, I don't know. I'll let you know what happens AFTER she reads my letter. At this point I have absolutely no clue...

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UPDATE: Good News About Nancy . . .

by Corvin in

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just stopping in to say hi and i?m ok. thanks to those who sent concerned emails.. update on nancy: she is going through counseling at a voluntary facility where she will remain for another 1.5 weeks.

we visit her often and she is very homesick by now.

she is looking forward to a fresh start, which we are all working hard to give her.

MerryMagdalene

So good to hear your good news!!! Looking forward to much more in the future...

All my best to you and your girls

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Hi all.

by foreverlove in

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i am not sure where to post an introduction so i shall do that here.

i heard about this board from a friend at www.theconversationcafe.com and look forward to some wonderful discussion.. .

MerryMagdalene

Greetings, foreverlove!

Do tell more...

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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie

by Farkel in

it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.

MerryMagdalene

Has anybody checked with the Bible Students who broke away when Rutherford took over and continued to follow the teachings of Russell? Maybe there are still some oldtimers there who have relevant information and would be willing to share it if you could show it was for a worthy cause. They have an interesting website with access to old documents having to do with their history, and they have discussion forums. Just a thought. www.biblestudents.net

What happened?

by MerryMagdalene in

don't know if this is the right area to post this or not, but.... does anyone know what happened in 1944 that caused the society to make the following "refinements" to their legal "arrangement," described in the march 15, 1990 watchtower as follows:.

for years, the visible governing body came to be identified with the seven-member board of directors of this corporation....the society's seven directors were faithful christians.

but their role in a legal corporation might have suggested that they owed their positions on the governing body to their being elected by legal members of the watchtower society.

MerryMagdalene

Don't know if this is the right area to post this or not, but...

Does anyone know what happened in 1944 that caused the Society to make the following "refinements" to their legal "arrangement," described in the March 15, 1990 Watchtower as follows:

For years, the visible Governing Body came to be identified with the seven-member board of directors of this corporation....The Society's seven directors were faithful Christians. But their role in a legal corporation might have suggested that they owed their positions on the Governing Body to their being elected by legal members of the Watchtower Society. Furthermore, by law such membership and its voting privileges were originally granted only to certain ones who made contributions to the Society. This arrangement needed to be changed. This was done at the annual meeting of the Pennsylvania corporation of the Watchtower Society held on October 2, 1944....Reporting on this improvement, The Watchtower of November 1, 1944, stated: "Money, as represented in financial contributions, should have no determining voice, should in fact have nothing to do with the filling of the governing body...." [however] Until 1971 those of the Governing Body were still identified with the seven members of the board of directors of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania."

And what happened in 1990 that made that made them openly address this issue again in the pages of the Watchtower?

just curious

--Merry

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Five Meetings and David's Five Stones (and other goofy things)...

by Confucious in

i don't think this was ever written in a wt, but i've heard it more than once as a comment.

that when david reached into his bag to sling a stone at goliath - that he had five stones to choose from.

and the comment was... .

MerryMagdalene

That's a good one. I know I've heard more than a few precious jewels of that nature, growing up JW, but they escape me for the moment. I'll have to mull it over for a bit...

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Have we really found God??

by New Castles in

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while as a global community we have been able to come together in matters of science, technology and sometimes even government, humanity has never really found the truth about religion.

whether one is true or not is where our conflicts begin.

whether you are christian and believe in the bible or muslim and read the koran, both are sure the other is wrong.

MerryMagdalene

"The conception of physical things and phenomena as transient manifestations of an underlying fundamental entity is not only a basic element of quantum field theory, but also a basic element of the Eastern world view.

"In trying to understand the mystery of Life, man has followed many different approaches....All are valid and useful in the context in which they arose...

"The modern physicist experiences the world through an extreme specialization of the rational mind; the mystic through an extreme specialization of the intuitive mind....Neither is comprehended in the other, nor can either of them be reduced to the other; but both of them are necessary, supplementing one another for a fuller understanding of the world....Science does not need mysticism and mysticism does not need science, but man needs both....What we need, therefore, is not a synthesis, but a dynamic interplay between mystical intuition and scientific analysis.

"...most of today's physicists do not seem to realize the philosophical, cultural, and spiritual implications of their theories. Many of them actively support a society which is still based on the mechanistic, fragmented world-view [of classical physics], without seeing that science points beyond such a view, toward a oneness of the universe which includes not only our natural environment but also our fellow human beings. I believe that the world-view implied by modern physics is inconsistent with our present society, which does not reflect the harmonious interrelatedness we observe in nature. To achieve such a state of dynamic balance, a radically different social and economic structure will be needed: a cultural revolution in the true sense of the word." --Fritjof Capra, The Tao of Physics

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letter from mom/letter to mom

by MerryMagdalene in

if anybody feels up to wading through what follows and giving me any feedback on it, i would really appreciate it, but, if not, that's cool too.... letter from mom (9/29/04):.

my dear one,.

i guess you know no one on earth is as dear to me as you.

MerryMagdalene

Good point, Elsewhere! That first paragraph of yours really hit me between the eyes.

And thanks, each of you, for your support and encouragement. It means so very very much to me!!!

--Merry

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Hi

by Logicandreason in

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i am not a former jw, but my mother has been one for years and as you all know, that affected me as well.

i was raised catholic in a nice part of queens ny, and for the most part i never had a problem with my faith.

when i turned ten or so, my mother became entrenched in the jehova witnesses, and has not looked back since.

MerryMagdalene

Welcome, welcome! It's always nice to meet someone new here and share experiences, information, and encouragement.

Looking forward to hearing more from you.

--Merry

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Are They Eager To Avoid Dead Kids?

by metatron in

i just found this over at kent's site.

http://www.online.ie/news/viewer.adp?article=3144275.

the tone of the comments seems oddly eager to compromise.

MerryMagdalene

I'm afraid I don't have a very good grasp of such matters as this but am wondering if, perhaps, it isn't all summed up in this one fragment: "...to avoid the trauma of removing constitutional rights from parents."