Posts by moomanchu

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The Christmas Star

by praiseband in

jw literature tries to persuade us that the star was actually sent by satan to guide the evil magi to the site of jesus and his family.

yet, the bible tells us in genesis that god was the creator of all the stars in the heavens.

nowhere that i am familiar with does the bible state that satan made any of the stars or any other celestial object.

moomanchu

Herod murdered about 20,000 young boys as a result of the information he obtained from the wise men whos star led them to Herod!! Do you think that God cooperated in the death of those children?

Matthew 2:12 and having been warned in a dream not to go back to Herod, they returned to their country by another route.

What information are you talking about??????

BTW like most rulers of the day Herod was ruthless , murdering his wife his three sons, mother in-law brother in-law , uncle and many others he didn't need any help killing these children.

Who used the wise men? God or Satan?

Who said anybody was using them ?

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Was Jesus Resurrected Twice

by moomanchu in

jw's deny the bodily resurrection of christ.

jw's claim he was resurrected a spiritual being namely michael .. using this line of reasoning then:.

jesus 'man' was resurrected to .

moomanchu

Josephmalik,

It is confusing no matter how you look at it, however I am liking the way "christendom" explains

Jesus's incarnation more and more, that it is a mystery, finite humans can't fully understand an infinite God.

vs.

JW preprogrammed answers that don't hold up under free thought or logical thought.

What is your web address?

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Was Jesus Resurrected Twice

by moomanchu in

jw's deny the bodily resurrection of christ.

jw's claim he was resurrected a spiritual being namely michael .. using this line of reasoning then:.

jesus 'man' was resurrected to .

moomanchu

Madtiger,

Alright since you took your ball and went home I'm not going to play nice either.

Anyone reading this besides us three (you, Gumby, and I) can see how this is going.

Since you can see the future maybe you should see if the GB is hiring I hear they need some good prophets.

I am not going to answer any more, because the main points have been made, and this is past silly. (Remember my post about the fleshly body leaving at escape velocity? That was the hint.)

Wow, in a matter of what 15 or so posts we covered all the bases on the resurrection of Jesus. Stupid religons have been discussing this for two thousand years and can't agree 100%. (plus we figured out the Jacob angel fight thing btw gumby the angel did give him a nasty limp so I read)

your questions are the equivalent of "Did Jesus have the same size penis when he was resurrected? Since he was in a slightly different body, wouldn't it stand to reason that he might have a better penis?"

Your questions are really dumb too naaah nah nah naah naaaaah.(plus I don't know what the hell your talking about)

That was fun

goodnight

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Was Jesus Resurrected Twice

by moomanchu in

jw's deny the bodily resurrection of christ.

jw's claim he was resurrected a spiritual being namely michael .. using this line of reasoning then:.

jesus 'man' was resurrected to .

moomanchu

Then later, he cast aside his fleshly body,

What your saying I think is Jesus was resurrected as physical man then transformed as a spiritual being?

So his body died again ?

Why can't he have his body and his spirit and use which ever one suits him at the time?

the LIFE FORCE of Michael was TRANSFERRED to the egg inside his earthly mother Mary. I didn't say Michael BECAME an egg. I said his life force was transferred to the egg.

What's the difference?

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Was Jesus Resurrected Twice

by moomanchu in

jw's deny the bodily resurrection of christ.

jw's claim he was resurrected a spiritual being namely michael .. using this line of reasoning then:.

jesus 'man' was resurrected to .

moomanchu

Michael was not "resurrected" to Jesus as a man. That phrase appears no where. That concept appears no where. What we both know is that the LIFE FORCE of Michael was TRANSFERRED to the egg inside his earthly mother Mary. The virgin birth. It NEVER says Michael DIES.

How could one of the most powerful angels be transformed into actually not an egg but a sperm?

What was he doing as that egg and was he alive and aware comin down the birth canal?

I think at some level he was dead intellectually.

The second resurrection is actually a resurrection. The man Jesus was dead for parts of 3 days. If Jehovah had not taken action, he would have REMAINED dead. Jehovah did take action, however, and Jesus was resurrected from the dead. Then later, he cast aside his fleshly body, and ascended to the heavens. This ascension is not a resurrection. It is a transformation.

So then Jesus had another physical body that died?

In regard to Jehovah takeing action Jesus said "Destroy this temple, and in three daysI will raise it up."

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Scriptures the Org never quotes in talks or publications.

by wanderlustguy in

i just read a post today that caught my attention, and gave me an idea.. name off some scriptures the society rarely or never quotes and the subject they pertain to.. job 1, 1-3 and job 3, 1-5, birthdays..

moomanchu

Acts 1:7

It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.

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The Arrival of the Kingdom of Heaven, When?

by acadian in

kingdom of heaven, now or later?.

at the last supper, jesus said that he would eat and drink with the apostles in the kingdom of god:.

and he said unto them, with desire i have desired to eat this passover with you before i suffer: for i say unto you, i will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of god.

moomanchu

I think the standard christian belief is the kingdom of God was established in heaven 33ce with the outpouring of the holy spirit, with the earthly reign to begin then with Jesus's second coming.

Matthew 28: 19,20 ...... All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.....

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Was Jesus Resurrected Twice

by moomanchu in

jw's deny the bodily resurrection of christ.

jw's claim he was resurrected a spiritual being namely michael .. using this line of reasoning then:.

jesus 'man' was resurrected to .

moomanchu

JW's deny the bodily resurrection of christ.

JW's claim he was resurrected a spiritual being namely Michael .

Using this line of reasoning then:

1st JW type resurrection

'Michael spirit being' was resurrected to

Jesus 'man'

2nd JW type resurrection

Jesus 'man' was resurrected to

'Michael spirit being'

IMO These JW type resurrections are more of a transformation of one entity type to another entity type, and not really a resurrection at all. If you are resurrected as something completely different how is your old self alive again? According to JW's there has never been a perfect bodily resurrection. How do they then have any hope or confidence in Jesus's resurrection?

If this is the case then the salvation of JW's is impossible.

Rom 10:9 if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart

that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one

mediator also between God and men the man Christ Jesus.

Alright let me have it. Don't be to rough.

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What state are you from?

by Junction-Guy in

this is for the us crowd, what state do you live in?

or from?----i live in tennessee, but from ohio and kentucky.

moomanchu

Penns woods

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Does God exist ?

by moomanchu in

a man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard .

trimmed.

as the barber began to work, they began to have a good .

moomanchu

I don't know why I posted this in the joke section? It just read and sounded like a joke to me.

Misery loves company, I am only sharing the junk I regularly recieve from my JW relatives.

All in all I didn't think it was that bad of an analogy.

It could have been worded better but it does say "so much pain and suffering in the world."

vs. individual pain and suffering.( The world would be a better place if everyone did actually

practice what the bible teaches)

I can't believe I'm defending JW's. Onward christian warriors. LOL