Keep trying different topics every person has a different trigger that makes the lights go on.
Good luck !
moomanchu
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Banging my head against a brick wall - and I go back for more !
by LouBelle inyup i do - when it come to trying to reason with my cousin - who is still disfellowshipped but believes it's the truth.. i asked him if i could disprove the 607 date thus throwing 1914 and that out the window would he still go back - knowing they had decieved him.
yes - he *&*$(@)&%)(@#$ said yes - i think the look of total shock/horror on my face could have said it all - i was lost for words - i might have growled though.. i know *i* can't make him see it but i keep trying.
i've tried to keep quiet, i've tried reasoning, i've tried shock tactics, i've tried humour, i've tried it all - i know i can't do it - but i'm a sucker.
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JW Refuses to Let Husband have Life-saving Transfusion
by fjtoth injehovahs witness refuses to let husband have life-saving blood transfusionby lucy cockcroft last updated: 6:42 am bst 06/06/2008 the wife of a man who is critically ill in hospital has refused to let doctors give him a life-saving blood transfusion because he is a jehovahs witness.john edwards, 57, suffered severe injuries when a motorist suspected of drink-driving knocked him over and medics have warned he could only have days to live if he does not have the transfusion.. but his wife sheila said he has signed a form banning any blood transfusions in the event of an accident or illness, because their religion forbids it.. it is believed she is rejecting repeated pleas from doctors hoping to change her mind.. the couple's sons, jonathan, 36 and tom, 29, do not share their beliefs and it was unclear last night whether they supported their mother's decision.. a family source said: "sheila is adamant that john must not have blood.
she says giving him a transfusion would be like assaulting him, and he wouldn't want to live knowing he had disobeyed his god.. "she is in a terrible state, constantly in tears at his bedside, but won't give in to requests from anyone.
her sons are both with her but her position hasnt budged.".
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moomanchu
unbelievable !!! sad that people die needlessly?.
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Words, sentences used to discribe how close we are to Armageddon?
by karter inin my 38 years as a jw i thought i'd heard them all.
at an assembly the do took a long breath through his nose and said" you can smell armageddon" that was 12 years ago.
after the new information we have been getting it so close.
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moomanchu
We are deep deeeeep into the last days.
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FW: Very Encouraging !!!?
by moomanchu indaddy loves you.
daddy loves you.
he was just waiting for her to give up the .
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moomanchu
Just figured I'd share some of the crap I read from my relatives.
Enjoy ......... NOT!
The cheerful girl with bouncy golden curls was almost five. Waiting
with her mother at the checkout stand, she saw them: a circle of
glistening white pearls in a pink foil box.
'Oh please, Mommy. Can I have them? Please, Mommy, please?' Quickly the
mother checked the back of the little foil box and then looked back into
the pleading blue eyes of her little girl's upturned face.' Two dollars. If you really want them, I'll think of some extra chores
for you and in no time you can save enough money to buy them for yourself.'
As soon as Jenny got home, she emptied her piggy bank and counted out 55
cents. After dinner, she unset the table and helped do the washing up, and
next day she went to the neighbor and asked Mrs.. McJames if she could dig
up dandelions for 50 cents.At last she had enough money to buy the necklace. Je nny loved her
pearls. They made her feel dressed up and grown up. She wore them
everywhere, to the shops, to kindergarten, even to bed. The only time she
took them off was when she went swimming or had a bubble bath. Mother said
if they get wet, they might turn her neck green.Jenny had a very loving daddy and every night when she was ready for
bed, he would stop whatever he was doing and come upstairs to read her a
story. One night when he finished the story, he asked Jenny, 'Do you love
me?''Oh yes, Daddy. You know that I love you.' 'Then give me your
pearls.''Oh Daddy, not my pearls. But you can have Princess --- the white
horse from my collection. The one with the pink tail. Remember, Daddy? The
one you gave me. She's my favorite.' 'That's okay, honey. Daddy loves you.
Good night.'And he kissed her on the forehead.About a week later, after
the story time, Jenny's daddy asked again, 'Do you love me?' 'Oh yes,
Daddy. You know that I love you.' 'Then give me your pearls.' 'Daddy, not
my pearls. But you can have my baby doll.My brand new one. She is so
beautiful and you can have the yellow blanket that matches her
bed.''That's okay. Sleep well, little one. Daddy loves you.' And, as
always he gave her forehead a gentle kiss.A few nights later when her
daddy came in, Jenny was sitting on her bed with her legs crossed
Indian-style. As he came close, he noticed her chin was trembling and one
silent tear rolled down her cheek.
'What is it, Jenny? What's the matter?' Jenny didn't say anything, but
lifted her little hand up to her daddy and when she opened it, there was
her little pearl necklace. With a little quiver, she finally said,
'here,Daddy. It's for you.' With tears gathering in his own eyes, Jenny's
kind daddy reached o ut with one hand to take the costume necklace, and
with the other hand he reached into his pocket and pulled out a blue
velvet case with a strand of genuine pearls and gave them to Jenny.
He had had them all the time. He was just waiting for her to give up the
fake stuff so he could give her a genuine treasure.And so it is, with our Heavenly Father Jehovah.
He is waiting for us to give up the false and cheap things in our lives
so that he can give us a beautiful treasure. Isn't Jehovah God good? Are
you holding onto things that Jehovah God wants you to let go of? Are you
holding on to harmful or unnecessary friends, relationships, habits and
activities that you have become so attached to that it seems impossible to
let go?Sometimes, it is so hard to see what is in the other hand, but do
believe this one thing: Jehovah will never ask you to give up s omething
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moomanchu
My mom and dad have end time fever.
They are hyper sensitive to gas prices because,
the book study was cancelled because gas has and will continue to go up.
The GB must know something is about to happen!!!!!
My dad even asked me to put a smaller motor on his riding lawn mower to save gas.
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Why did Jehovah allow Adam and Eve to have children?
by moomanchu inwhy not have them die that day as sinners as promised.. no kids, end of story.
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Moo, so....you're suggesting best two out of three? I don't think anyone here is giving Jehovah the benefit of his wisdom.
Hey, not a bad idea makes more sense then what the jaydubeeyas teach ; Did Jehovah's servants really obey him out of love or might all of them abandon God and follow the lead being given by Satan ? This latter issue was further developed by Satan in the days of Job. These issues could not be settled by merely executing the rebels. God has permitted both Satan and humans to try every form of government of their own making. None have brought lasting happiness.
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Why did Jehovah allow Adam and Eve to have children?
by moomanchu inwhy not have them die that day as sinners as promised.. no kids, end of story.
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Satan wanted to prove that humans don't need Jehovah, so Jehovah decided to let humans try and fail
I hear ya, the automated Jdub response .
Jehovah rigged the contest though. Only a couple of obstacles death, sickness ect..... and quit talking to each other and start babeling.
To have a fair test why not start over with another perfect couple, let them have perfect kids then see where that goes.
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Why did Jehovah allow Adam and Eve to have children?
by moomanchu inwhy not have them die that day as sinners as promised.. no kids, end of story.
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moomanchu
Why not have them die that day as sinners as promised.
No kids, end of story.
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Hits the nail on the head
by moomanchu inthought i'd share this chart from the life applicaton study bible.
salvation through faith.
religon by self-effort salvation by faith.
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moomanchu
'Christ's simple way is the only way, and it alone leads to eternal life.'
Are you sure that it's the ONLY way?I meant this as encouragement to people who are looking for the biblical way to salvation, not as a debate for which form of belief system is correct.
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Hits the nail on the head
by moomanchu inthought i'd share this chart from the life applicaton study bible.
salvation through faith.
religon by self-effort salvation by faith.
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At least it did for me for.
Thought I'd Share this chart from the Life applicaton study bible.
Salvation through faith
Religon by Self-effort Salvation by FaithGoal Please God by our own good works Trust in Christ and then live to
please God
Means Practice, diligent service, discipline, Confess, submit, and commit
and obedience, in hope of reward yourself to Christ's control
Power Good, honest effort through self- The Holy spirit in us helps us do
determination good work for Christ's kingdom
Control Self-motivation, self-control Christ in me; I in Christ
Results Chronic guilt, apath, depression, Joy, thankfulness, love,
failure, constant desire for approval guidance, service, forgivenessSalvation by faith in Christ sounds to easy for many people. They would rather think that they have done something
to save themselves. Their religon becomes one of self-effort that leads either to disappointment or pride, but finally to eternal death.
Christ's simple way is the only way, and it alone leads to eternal life.