I just some more interesting references and quotes from the Assumption of Moses, but I think I'll save them for my upcoming thread on pseudepigraphal sources for Jude.
sounds great!
googlemagoogle
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Assumption of Moses
by googlemagoogle ini've read claims (mentioning origen) that jude 9 would be a quote from the "assumption of moses", also known as the "testament of moses".
however, i can't find any reference in this pseudepigraphical writing that would even losely have a connection to a fight between michael the archangel and the devil.
what i also find confusing, that the "book of jubilees" is sometimes called "testament of moses" too, but that's a whole different story.
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Assumption of Moses
by googlemagoogle ini've read claims (mentioning origen) that jude 9 would be a quote from the "assumption of moses", also known as the "testament of moses".
however, i can't find any reference in this pseudepigraphical writing that would even losely have a connection to a fight between michael the archangel and the devil.
what i also find confusing, that the "book of jubilees" is sometimes called "testament of moses" too, but that's a whole different story.
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googlemagoogle
yes, very informative! the use of different titles for the same(?) story is really confusing. Kenneson's link even includes the "apocalypsis of moses", wich is a story about adam & eve IIRC. the book of jubilees is sometimes called the "lesser genesis" maybe that's why someone confused it with the "book of creation" severus mentions.
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Author Claims Abraham Lincoln was Gay
by Kenneson inthere's a new book coming out next year, "intimate world of abraham lincoln," by dr. c.a.
tripp which claims that abraham lincoln was gay.
he asserts that lincoln was predominantly homosexual and only incidentally heterosexual.
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googlemagoogle
everyone is gay, but some seem not to know about their secret orientation... stop being hetero you perverted b@st@rdos!
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Assumption of Moses
by googlemagoogle ini've read claims (mentioning origen) that jude 9 would be a quote from the "assumption of moses", also known as the "testament of moses".
however, i can't find any reference in this pseudepigraphical writing that would even losely have a connection to a fight between michael the archangel and the devil.
what i also find confusing, that the "book of jubilees" is sometimes called "testament of moses" too, but that's a whole different story.
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googlemagoogle
wow, thanks for the great info. interesting that origen mentions the "canon", also. i'm not that good at greek, but isn't didymus talking about the apperance of moses, eliah and isaiah along with jesus to the disciples here?
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what do you read at Matthew 27:52,53 ?
by evergreen inreading my bible daily ,i am enjoying what i read, especially not having to constantly refer to wt literature all the time .but simply reading what is in black and white in the holy scriptures.. i came across this portion of scripture at matthew 27:52,53 .
and the memorial tombs were opened and many bodies of the holy ones that had fallen asleep were raised up,(and persons,coming out from among the memorial tombs after his being raised up,entered into the holy city,)and they became visible to many people.. two things that come to my mind from this portion of scripture.
1/ dead people are raised ie holy ones.. the society says that these were bodies that became visible that fell out from the tombs because of the earthquake ??.
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dead bodies appeared to many
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Assumption of Moses
by googlemagoogle ini've read claims (mentioning origen) that jude 9 would be a quote from the "assumption of moses", also known as the "testament of moses".
however, i can't find any reference in this pseudepigraphical writing that would even losely have a connection to a fight between michael the archangel and the devil.
what i also find confusing, that the "book of jubilees" is sometimes called "testament of moses" too, but that's a whole different story.
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googlemagoogle
seems like the part origen refers to was lost... hopefully someone finds it again! that is, if it ever existed.
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The doctrine of the Tri-Part man.
by LittleToe inrecently there have been discussions about the immortal soul, v's the wts beliefs, so i thought i'd present a little heard of (in jw circles) doctrine of the soul that seeks to explain some passages of scripture that are usually avoided.. first of all, leo posted some fascination information, which gives some background on the bible's general teaching on the soul:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/80742/1319806/post.ashx#1319806.
the doctrine itself surrounds two texts in particular, which i quote from the nwt:.
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The only thing he left out was an explanation to all the shit he had recoreded.
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Assumption of Moses
by googlemagoogle ini've read claims (mentioning origen) that jude 9 would be a quote from the "assumption of moses", also known as the "testament of moses".
however, i can't find any reference in this pseudepigraphical writing that would even losely have a connection to a fight between michael the archangel and the devil.
what i also find confusing, that the "book of jubilees" is sometimes called "testament of moses" too, but that's a whole different story.
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googlemagoogle
origen, 3. de principiis 2:1
... And in the first place, in the book of Genesis, the serpent is described as having seduced Eve; regarding whom, in the work entitled The Ascension of Moses (a little treatise, of which the Apostle Jude makes mention in his Epistle), the archangel Michael, when disputing with the devil regarding the body of Moses, says that the serpent, being inspired by the devil, was the cause of Adam and Eve's transgression. ...
i'll search for asimov, but in the "assumption of moses" itself, i can't find anything about michael... -
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Knock Knock ... Good Morning, I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses ......
by groovycat. inhehe, how i hated saturday morings!.
hello all, i'm new to the forum!.
first of all, i would like to apologise to anyone who had the misfortune of opening their door early on a saturday morning to me preaching the good news!
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googlemagoogle
thanksgiving is as old as humanity. the jews had 3 thanksgiving celebrations every year, one of them being pentecost. a international common date is impossible, because every zone has different harvesting times. only since a few decades some countries have picked a date to celebrate thanksgiving (usually in autumn).
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Assumption of Moses
by googlemagoogle ini've read claims (mentioning origen) that jude 9 would be a quote from the "assumption of moses", also known as the "testament of moses".
however, i can't find any reference in this pseudepigraphical writing that would even losely have a connection to a fight between michael the archangel and the devil.
what i also find confusing, that the "book of jubilees" is sometimes called "testament of moses" too, but that's a whole different story.
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googlemagoogle
i've read claims (mentioning origen) that jude 9 would be a quote from the "assumption of moses", also known as the "testament of moses". however, i can't find any reference in this pseudepigraphical writing that would even losely have a connection to a fight between michael the archangel and the devil.
what i also find confusing, that the "book of jubilees" is sometimes called "testament of moses" too, but that's a whole different story.
where did jude get that michael/devil story from? is there yet another document called "assumption of moses"?