Thanks very much you 'nice' people!
Posts by gdt
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Seeing JWs in a positive light.
by ScoobySnax innot a new light, just a positive light.. sometimes on here i worry that all jws are painted with a bad brush when i know that not to be the case.
today i was looking after a jw patient on the ward and she was the most wonderful old girl you could meet, she really made me smile, and she was bright as a button.
later her family came in, who i didn't recognise and they were just as pleasent.
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Just had to make comment on this thread that it was great to see some decent remarks (to me anyway) about some of the most beautiful people in the world who are trying hard to be good as persons, walk in Christ's footsteps, be good in their relationship with Jehovah, apply the advice from the Scriptures and the Society, and I am so sorry that some of you have only ever had terrible things from the overseers or the brothers in general, or at least your words say that. I do not lie to you in saying that my 50 odd years of life as a witness has, in the overall, been one of great depth, beauty and encouragement.
The divide between those on this board and the brothers in the truth may well be fixed by more true love and understanding. Bigotry, anger and bitterness may be caused by other individuals, in our opinions, but if we can conquer bad with the good, and remember we have no right to retaliate with hatred to any others, surely our lives would be blessed.
I can only say this: If you do not believe in God as Creator, who is responsible for and who do you show thanks to for the good things? (ie babies, your life no matter how bad it is now, food, drink, flowers, etc etc)
And, if you hate the Society and its representatives, who or what is responsible for the 6.5m publishers trying hard to privately and publicly help others. in all nations, not learning war either personal or national, anymore?
(perhaps I should leave this board too, bit hard not to learn 'war' from it sometimes....)
Cheers,
gdt. Geoff.
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Jim Penton
by Greenpalmtreestillmine injim penton wrote on channel c:.
"posted by jimpenton on sun - oct 31 - 6:48pm: .
.... therefore, i want to devote the last years of my life (i am 72)to more positive, upbuilding activities such as giving a testimony to my faith through manifesting the fruits of the spirit, attempting to minister to the widows and orphans in their affliction, and to giving a positive witness through my writing.
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Not a lot of wisdom or respect shown, is there? To each other; to active JW's, to inactive ones; to total disbelievers; to any and all others.
After reading most all posts this last 6 months, I can only say as an active witness these past 50 odd years that I personally am sorry for any hurt caused by those in authority (as I used to be) in the organization, and it is my firm belief that there is a Creator, there is His Son Jesus Christ; there is a work to do by the 'one lord, one faith, one baptism' association of brothers in all the world; and that individuals highlighted in this particular thread do not bring the sun up no more than any of us. Does it not behoove all of us to keep our place, be kind and courteous and respectful to all, hate the wrong not the wrongdoer, and give some credit where it is due?
No doubt difficult if we have been disciplined/corrected when we fail as humans to live up to what we have publicly stated we are going to do as in our baptism, and we rebel/reject/get hurt etc, or if we believe we have been deceived by those we have trusted.
Please to all who are still reading this thread, please be kinder and less abrasive to each other.
To all others, no matter what, the Christ said we should love not just our friends, but love our enemies. And that includes you, me, Jim, Ray etc, none of us bring the sun up. Nor do any of us know the total circumstances behind the sins committed against us. Jesus Christ was right, whether you read his words from the KJ, NWT, NE,AS etc etc.
Just my personal beliefs, I have had enough time and experience with those in responsible positions in the truth to know how much most, if not all, are really trying hard to do the right thing. You nor I are appointed as anyone else's Judge.
Sincerely,
Geoff. gdt.
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If You Could Rename Jehovah's Witnesses What Would You Call 'em?
by Incense_and_Peppermints ini chose "the society of smoke and mirrors" or "the fuzzy logicians".
but the best one is "the blindfaithians".
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Gary, read that before, a bit like asking the Pharisees about Jesus...a winebibber, drunkard, with pro's, etc etc.....may I suggest you re-read that article thoroughly. Nothing said to lie. To not answer to avoid discriminating oneself or others is natural justice. To purposefully lie is of course very wrong for anyone.
Have I read only truth on this board? Mmmmm, no enlargements, no exaggerations, no self-justification?
Take care, geoff.
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If You Could Rename Jehovah's Witnesses What Would You Call 'em?
by Incense_and_Peppermints ini chose "the society of smoke and mirrors" or "the fuzzy logicians".
but the best one is "the blindfaithians".
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Outlaw, truth does not require revealing information to those who would want to hurt your family, truth allows for refusal to answer (ie 'theocratic warfare). please don't suggest you have ever read anything like saying we should tell an untruth (lie), best to refuse to answer. Surely you understand that, and if you have evidence that the society has counselled to the congregations to 'lie' or tell an untruth, please tell me.
Thanks, and cheers, gdt.
ps if I don't answer it is that I have to go, we're taking motorhomes to their 'homes' around oz.....about 4000 miles, and have to go.hope to get your response in a couple of weeks!. pps...be nice!
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If You Could Rename Jehovah's Witnesses What Would You Call 'em?
by Incense_and_Peppermints ini chose "the society of smoke and mirrors" or "the fuzzy logicians".
but the best one is "the blindfaithians".
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Fair enough 'outlaw'....but it's not much use criticizing unless you are doing at least as good, and preferably, better. So.......what is it you are suggesting as the alternative? A bunch of ..??
There are, as you know, a lot of nice people who read and contribute to this board, and who love what is godly and encouraging. Some have become total unbelievers in a creator but are still nice. On the other hand .......?? How would you describe such ones?
It is much nicer to 'disagree, agreeably', surely, than to disagree with a filthy tongue, mind or word, one would think.
just my way of seeing things,
cheers, gdt.
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If You Could Rename Jehovah's Witnesses What Would You Call 'em?
by Incense_and_Peppermints ini chose "the society of smoke and mirrors" or "the fuzzy logicians".
but the best one is "the blindfaithians".
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what a rough day you must all be having to have to start it with such indecency and disrespect... i trust your day gets better! How about trying to be nicer eh?
Cheers, gdt.
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Do "they" care?
by peggy ini attended the meeting today, hoping for some encouraging words.
i arrived while the prayer was in progress, i waited, then found my way to a familiy i enjoy and sat with them.
the speaker was visiting from another congregation.
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Bebu, your nice comments were appreciated. There is enough hurt and condemnation of others without any purposeful adding to them, surely. regards, gdt geoff.
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Do "they" care?
by peggy ini attended the meeting today, hoping for some encouraging words.
i arrived while the prayer was in progress, i waited, then found my way to a familiy i enjoy and sat with them.
the speaker was visiting from another congregation.
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PS....just to mention that in our papers today, articles appeared with photos of sunbathers obviously enjoying themselves,some Aussies quoted as saying they don't care what the PM said for tourists not to go at this time, and an attitude like what your speaker may have grabbed onto, instead of looking for the good!. pps we aussies aren't all nice either, sorry to say,
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Do "they" care?
by peggy ini attended the meeting today, hoping for some encouraging words.
i arrived while the prayer was in progress, i waited, then found my way to a familiy i enjoy and sat with them.
the speaker was visiting from another congregation.
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Peg, may i just say how dreadfully thoughtless that speaker was.....terrible. Yesterday our speaker was in fact the c.o., who discussed and prayed for all those who had died or were alive and hurting, and it was the exact opposite of what you experienced. Are the US witnesses becoming callous or thoughtless? Hope not. Our brother told of a few experiences he'd received from the branch, and I am sorry you have seen such thoughtlessness over your way.
No wonder we are encouraged to endure etc etc, please don't let such awfulness stop you from seeing all the good, and it is there too I am sure among the brothers. Take special care, it is nice to see how much you feel for people, and remember we don't answer to men in the long run, none of them bring the sun up! (not even women either!)
Cheers, gdt geoff.