Posts by HappyDad

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND JADE JEWELRY

by HappyDad in

i had to listen to jw craziness starting in 1960 when my mother started studying.

recently, i was reading paul and pat blizard's website and came across "101 strange beliefs and practices of jehovah's witnesses".

granted.......some of these beliefs have gone by the wayside because of bud light.... i mean new light!

HappyDad

Atlantis,

(Ask JWD and ye shall recieve the answer) Thank you so much for the reference. Yep........that's it!

Holy $hite.............they could take the most harmless thing and make you think that you are/were demon possessed.

HappyDad

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND JADE JEWELRY

by HappyDad in

i had to listen to jw craziness starting in 1960 when my mother started studying.

recently, i was reading paul and pat blizard's website and came across "101 strange beliefs and practices of jehovah's witnesses".

granted.......some of these beliefs have gone by the wayside because of bud light.... i mean new light!

I had to listen to JW craziness starting in 1960 when my mother started studying. Recently, I was reading Paul and Pat Blizard's website and came across "101 Strange Beliefs and Practices of Jehovah's Witnesses". Granted.......some of these beliefs have gone by the wayside because of ~~Bud Light~~.... I mean New Light! But when I came to number 63. You cannot wear jade jewelry, something in my memory bank became active and I remembered my mother talking about that over 40 years ago.

Problem is......I don't remember why this was a belief and can't find any reference anywhere.

I'm sure someone else has heard this among many of the other crazy beliefs. I'll be patiently waiting for an answer.

Thanks fellow JWDers.

HappyDad

18

Any Other Widows Here?

by Panda in

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so for me it's been 9 months since mr.panda died.

people have said it would "get easier" "fade" etc.

for me none of this has occurred.

HappyDad

One of my biggest decisions still have to be made. Hubby was cremated and requested that I spread his ashes out

It took three years but close to our wedding anniversary in Oct. 1999, (Joyce died in April, 1996) I drove to my late wife's favorite place in the world and scattered her ashes. The location is Shawnee Lake in Shawnee State Park near Bedford, PA.

We spent many, many weekends there in our pop-up camper in the early 1980"s when our daughter was little. When my daughter was visiting me from Florida last week, it was the first time she wasn't able to take the drive there. She always goes there when in PA. In a way, it's like visiting the grave of a loved one.

HappyDad

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Welcome to Watchtown

by + in

welcome to watchtown .

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HappyDad

Excellent....Excellent....Excellent work +.

I remember all too well the Jonestown massacre. At that time I had to face the wrath of my workmates. Somewhere in my heart, I knew we JW's resembled some of that behavior.

HappyDad

36

Lawsuits and WT's exit from Brooklyn

by compound complex in

thank you, danny, for that information on the sale of brooklyn properties.

i commented on dr. brenda upton's lawsuit against the society.

below is further pertinent information:.

HappyDad

Dr. (Sister) Upton said...................

“We don’t have a spiritual conflict,” said Upton, who has moved with her husband to Washington State.
“Our problem all along has been medical-legal. We are still active Jehovah’s Witnesses.”

I'd have this to say to Dr. Upton.........

My dear Dr. Upton. See what I have highlighted in yellow? Well my dear Dr. Upton, you committed a serious no-no against your "mother". You violated what they always told you not to. You sued them! They won't come right out and say....."how dare you?", but from now on, you will be watched through a magnifying glass and they will jump for joy once they catch you saying or doing the least thing that offends someone. If you haven't already been.....because of your lawsuit........you will eventually be accused of causing divisions or be viewed as bad association.

Hey Doc,

We can't wait until you start posting here on JWD.

HappyDad

43

Give me something to celebrate! (Tell me some good news)

by AlmostAtheist in

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hey all,.

there are a few "what damage did the watchtower do to you?

"-type threads floating about, and it's easy to get sort of down over it all.

HappyDad

My daughter drove 1200 miles from Florida to visit me this week. I'm sooooooooooooooooooooo happy not only to see her, but she left the TROOF on her own. At the time, she was afraid to tell me and I was afraid to tell her that neither one of us considered ourselves to be nor ever wanted again to be a JW. See........there are happy endings. That's why I call myself HappyDad.

I'll give you another reason to celebrate.........OK?

Tonight.......I'm going to hit the POWERBALL LOTTERY for millions and everyone who responds to your thread by 10:58 PM tonight...........I will send each one a check for a thousand bucks. Yeah......I know it sounds cheap.

HappyDad

13

Need some help re:Trinity scriptures

by Junction-Guy in

i have a pamphlet somewhere in this apartment that i cant seem to find, it deals with the nwt not consistenly rendering the logos, ho-theos, and theos.

they translate these words inconsistently as lord,jehovah,jesus, etc etc etc.. .

what i need to know are scriptures where these words arent rendered consistently.

HappyDad

Dave,

Just a few weeks ago a lady at the church I attend wanted this exact same info because her JW cousin was always preaching the "truuf" to her and she wanted ammunition to preach back. If you need more information, just Google these three words together.....JENOVAH'S WITNESSES TRINITY........and you will find a ton of it.

Here is just some of the info I got...............

http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/jw-trin.html

http://www.believersweb.org/view.cfm?ID=696

The following might help too. (copied from a web site)

Effective Verses to Show that Jesus IS Jehovah

NT authors frequently used OT passages that referred to Jehovah in reference to the Son.

· Isaiah 6:1 with John 12:37-41.

· Psalm 102:25-27 with Hebrews 1:10 (also: Isa. 8:12-13 with 1 Peter 3:14-15; Isa. 45:23 with Phil. 2:10; Joel 2:32 with Rom. 10:13).

John 1:1

John 1:1a

indicates that the Word was eternal: en arche en ho logos, "In [the] beginning was the Word. . . ." The Greek verb en, "was" is an imperfect tense, which indicates that the Word was always existing (cf. Phil. 2:6: hosen morphe theou huparchon, lit.,"[Christ Jesus] who in nature God subsisting").

At John 1:1b (lit., "the Word was withthe God"), the eternal Word is said to be distinct (pros, "with") from His Father. Then, at John 1:1c, John literally writes: "God was the Word" (theos en ho logos). Note that the Apostle John places theos ("God") in the *emphatic position* (i.e., at the beginning of the clause) and theos is anarthrous (i.e., without the article ["the"]).

Thus, John clearly indicates here that (a) the eternal Word was "God" in the fullest sense (hence, he places theos ["God"] in emphatic position) and (b) John purposely presents theos as anarthrous, that is, he does not include the article ("the") before theos as in John 1:1b (speaking of the Father). Hence, theos is *qualitative* pointing to the Word's nature as fully God, not His identity. Qualitative nouns refer to description, not identification (cf. John 1:14; 4:24; 1 John 1:5). For if John had written: "The God was the Word" (ho theos en ho logos) he would have then indicated that the Word was the same God (same Person or identity) as "God" in John 1:1b--the Father!

Thus, John precludes an indefinite rendering ("a god" as in the NWT) by places theos in the empathic position and safeguards against modalism (Oneness theology) that asserts Jesus is the Father.

In conclusion: John 1:1 teaches that (a) the Word is eternal (1:1a: "In [the] beginning was [en] the Word), (b) the Word is eternally distinct from the Father (1:1b: the Word was with [pros] God), and (c) as to the Word's essential nature, He is God in the fullest sense (1:1c: lit., "God [theos] was the Word").

For more details on John 1:1 and an analysis of the Watchtower's indefinite rendering of theos in John 1:1c ("a god" NWT), see John 1:1 .

Jesus is called "The God" (o qeoj, ho theos):

John 20:28

Thomas said to Jesus (direct address): ho kurios mou kai ho theos mou, lit. "the Lord of me and the God of me" (see the WT’s own Greek interlinear called: TheKingdom Interlinear Translation).

Titus 2:13:

"The great God and Savior": tou megalou theou kai soteros hemon Christou Iesou, lit. "the great God and Savior of us Christ Jesus." Note: in 2 Peter 1:1 is the same grammatical construction (i.e., article-noun-kai-noun): tou theou hemon kai soteros Iesou Christou, lit. "the God of us and Savior Jesus Christ (cf. 2 Peter 1:11; 2:20; 3:2, 18; 2 Thess. 1:12; see Gk.).

Hebrews 1:8:"But of the Son He [the Father] says, "YOUR THRONE, O GOD IS FOREVER AND EVER. . . ." (ho thronos sou ho theos, lit."the throne of you the God").

Jesus’ Absolute claim to BE
the "I Am" (egw eimi, ego eimi):

These would be Mark 6:50; John 8:24; 8:28; 8:58; 13:19 (cf.Isa. 43:10; LXX); 18:5; 18:6; and 18:8.

*Why is it important to know and teach that Jesus IS God?: Besides that of John 4:24; 17:3 and 1 John 2:23, Jesus declares in John 8:24:

Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I AmHe [ego eimi], you will die in your sins [note: "He" is not in the Gk.].

*See also: John 1:18; Rom. 9:5; Phil. 2:6-11; Col. 2:9 (theotetos); Heb. 1:3; 1 John 5:20; Rev. 5:13-14[The Trinity: One God revealed in three distinctcoequal, coeternal, coexistent Persons].

Good luck,

HappyDad

18

Any Other Widows Here?

by Panda in

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friends

so for me it's been 9 months since mr.panda died.

people have said it would "get easier" "fade" etc.

for me none of this has occurred.

HappyDad

Panda,

I understand what you feel! I'm a widower and it is 11 years this week....April 27th.....since my wife died. She was only 46 when she died.

As time passes the pain of loss subsides but the memories are always there. And each year around this time, it still hurts to know that she is gone.

My daughter is here visiting me from Florida this week and we have shed a few tears together talking about how much we miss her mom.

I've fallen in love with someone since (it didn't work out) and I've talked to other widows and widowers who have remarried and they all say that even with a new spouse, you still remember and love the first one. It just seems like a common fact. You never shut out the memory of someone you shared your life with.

I wish you well and hope you can cope. Cherish the memories!

HappyDad

62

gettin a bike

by IP_SEC in

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friends

im going down to cajun harley today and im not leaving without a bike.. too bad i cant fit 100 lbs of crawfish on it .

HappyDad

IP,

I'm jealous! You're gonna love it. Another Harley for me would be nice, but I think at 60 years old, I should slow down a bit. One of these days I'm going to post before and after pictures of my custom 1984 Harley FLHTC that got broadsided (with me on it) on October 4, 2003. Sho' am glad to still be here and talk about it.

HappyDad

43

Update: Elders on the move....

by drew sagan in

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friends

well everybody, i think a little update is in order here with what is going on in my world.

much has happened, and it appears that much more is going to happen quite quickly.

for those of you that don't know, the poster amber rose is my wife.

HappyDad

Again, I can see the futility of arguments. They are of no value here. This is the time to build bridges not burn them down. I'm going to be taking on a 'love first' approach. I want my mother in law to see that we love her. I want her to see that we care about her.

This is the best approach Drew.

You and your wife should also play "dumb" or that it was a momentary lapse of memory about joining the Y.

You are a smart man. If there is a need for you and your wife to remain JW's for the time being, in order to keep her mother off guard and happy, then play the injured party long enough to start the fade once again.

I wish you the best on this.

HappyDad